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sleeping messiah 12-04-2018 08:56 AM

Hi all, Miata Noob from Seattle here
 
Salutations,

Picked up my first Miata last month: went to go look at a "1996 (base) Miata with a hardtop and a roll bar" and it turned out to be a '97 STO with a paint-matched hardtop and a style bar. The car was in pretty rough shape when I got it, I've been slowly cleaning and restoring the interior, and will probably move onto the exterior when we have a reasonably temperate dry day up here.
Haven't modified the car yet, although I'll be sorting out the handling with a set of Xidas, IL hardened rubber bushings, and a torsen to get the most out of the rear wheels. Not really concerned with power until I get the handling sorted out, although I might go ahead and get a bp4w/bp5a head mounted on the block for a few extra hp, and to get ready for boost.
Hope to see you all around!

greddygalant 12-04-2018 09:03 AM

Need a torsen? I got one in Portland :)

Scaxx 12-04-2018 10:51 AM

Welcome! Any plans to track the car?

matrussell122 12-04-2018 05:15 PM

Welcome. Im just in Shorewood (fancy dancy White Center) Got any pics of the car.

sleeping messiah 12-05-2018 02:30 AM


Originally Posted by greddygalant (Post 1513332)
Need a torsen? I got one in Portland :)

Probably pretty soon, got a 4.1?


Originally Posted by Scaxx (Post 1513350)
Welcome! Any plans to track the car?

I’m kind of torn, I bought the car with intent to track it occasionally, but after cleaning it a bit, it’s in much better condition than I initially thought and now I’m having second thoughts about cutting it up and caging it. I’ll probably get over it by spring, put a proper double diagonal roll bar in, and start putting down some time on the track this summer once I get it dialed in.


Originally Posted by matrussell122 (Post 1513449)
Welcome. Im just in Shorewood (fancy dancy White Center) Got any pics of the car.

Thank you, yeah, think I’ve got a few from right after I bought it around here somewhere... working nights, now, so I haven’t seen daylight for about a month.

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...48a113017.jpeg
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...031bc6de3.jpeg

Scaxx 12-05-2018 11:02 AM

Definitely don't cage it at first :) Just put a rollbar in it and get some seat time, I promise you won't regret it!

DNMakinson 12-05-2018 11:26 AM

What roll bar is in it now? Boss Frog or Hard Dog; or is it just a style bar?

If Boss Frog or Hard Dog, properly installed, then it should be OK.

tylerkun 12-06-2018 04:25 AM

Sweet looking car! It looks to be just a style bar. I bought a Hard Dog M2 sport with the double diagonals. Easy to install by myself and I just bolted it in with the supplied plates. It's been installed for 2 and a half years and I love it! Gives it a cool look and the chassis stiffening was a very nice and much needed bonus.

sleeping messiah 12-06-2018 01:45 PM

Yeah, it’s just a style bar, unfortunately. Can’t really complain for the price I paid for the car with hardtop, but I’ve definitely been looking at roll bars. Starting to narrow my search down to the hard dog hardcore hard top m1, zerekfab double diagonal, the blackbird fabworx na gt3, and they all seem pretty comparable on paper, any reason to go with one over the others?

Fosters 12-06-2018 05:10 PM


Originally Posted by sleeping messiah (Post 1513714)
Starting to narrow my search down to the hard dog hardcore hard top m1, zerekfab double diagonal, the blackbird fabworx na gt3, and they all seem pretty comparable on paper, any reason to go with one over the others?

My mom bought a NA with the Blackbird Fabworks bar which I had been lusting over (bar not the car). Once I sat in her car, I did not like that bar as it made rear visibility difficult. Your height and/or the seats you are running may adjust the impact, but you may want to see if you can sit in a local car with one installed before ordering. I love the look of the gussets, etc of the bar, but I'm leaning towards different style diagonals with better visibility. Just something to think about.

Josh

matrussell122 12-06-2018 05:18 PM


Originally Posted by Fosters (Post 1513763)
My mom bought a NA with the Blackbird Fabworks bar which I had been lusting over (bar not the car). Once I sat in her car, I did not like that bar as it made rear visibility difficult. Your height and/or the seats you are running may adjust the impact, but you may want to see if you can sit in a local car with one installed before ordering. I love the look of the gussets, etc of the bar, but I'm leaning towards different style diagonals with better visibility. Just something to think about.

Josh

Ill trade you my hard dog double diagonal for your BFW

tylerkun 12-06-2018 06:51 PM


Originally Posted by sleeping messiah (Post 1513714)
Yeah, it’s just a style bar, unfortunately. Can’t really complain for the price I paid for the car with hardtop, but I’ve definitely been looking at roll bars. Starting to narrow my search down to the hard dog hardcore hard top m1, zerekfab double diagonal, the blackbird fabworx na gt3, and they all seem pretty comparable on paper, any reason to go with one over the others?

If mirror visibility is a concern, the Hard Dog with the double diagonals (can't speak for any others) isn't the best if you are over 5'9... Anything below is fine, but take my opinion lightly. This is coming from a guy who has stickers covering his back window and removed the center rear view mirror. A look over the shoulder works just as well if not better for me.

matrussell122 12-06-2018 07:47 PM

I'm 6' and it doesn't bug me a bit

sixshooter 12-10-2018 11:25 AM

I am 6 foot 1 and have no problems with the hard dog with double diagonals. Actually really good. And my aluminum seat is bolted flat to the floor now.

Scaxx 12-10-2018 03:42 PM

I'm 5'6" and I fit everything :D

sleeping messiah 12-12-2018 08:18 AM

Thanks for the advice,
I'm 5'8", so I'm not terribly concerned about visibility.
That blackbird fabworks bar sure is sexy, but I'm leaning towards the zerekfab double diagonal bar with the Hard dog in a close second.
I'm in the market for 15x6 wheels, aside from the 15x6 6ULs from 949 and the stock 99-00 5 spoke wheels, any suggestions for something lighter than the stock 14.5lb Enkeis I have on the car in the same price range as the 6ULs? Seems like there's a pretty steep jump after the 6ul to save an extra pound or two per corner...

matrussell122 12-12-2018 10:18 AM


Originally Posted by sleeping messiah (Post 1514538)
Thanks for the advice,
I'm 5'8", so I'm not terribly concerned about visibility.
That blackbird fabworks bar sure is sexy, but I'm leaning towards the zerekfab double diagonal bar with the Hard dog in a close second.
I'm in the market for 15x6 wheels, aside from the 15x6 6ULs from 949 and the stock 99-00 5 spoke wheels, any suggestions for something lighter than the stock 14.5lb Enkeis I have on the car in the same price range as the 6ULs? Seems like there's a pretty steep jump after the 6ul to save an extra pound or two per corner...

Friend i will trade you fro my Hard dog double diagonal and install it for your BFW bar

Scaxx 12-12-2018 10:38 AM


Originally Posted by sleeping messiah (Post 1514538)
Thanks for the advice,
I'm 5'8", so I'm not terribly concerned about visibility.
That blackbird fabworks bar sure is sexy, but I'm leaning towards the zerekfab double diagonal bar with the Hard dog in a close second.
I'm in the market for 15x6 wheels, aside from the 15x6 6ULs from 949 and the stock 99-00 5 spoke wheels, any suggestions for something lighter than the stock 14.5lb Enkeis I have on the car in the same price range as the 6ULs? Seems like there's a pretty steep jump after the 6ul to save an extra pound or two per corner...

15x8s :D

ryansmoneypit 12-12-2018 11:54 AM

ya, you dont want 6 inch wheels.

tylerkun 12-12-2018 04:41 PM


Originally Posted by Scaxx (Post 1514561)
15x8s :D


Originally Posted by ryansmoneypit (Post 1514570)
ya, you dont want 6 inch wheels.

This ^ If you're dead set on 6 inch wheels for whatever reason, do it. But my advice as well as these two would be at least an 8 inch wheel. That will allow you to at least get into the 2xx width tires and it is so worth it! Depending on the offset, you really don't even need to roll, pull, or even touch your fenders either. Although, it never hurts to roll them..!


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