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SamS 05-16-2016 01:34 PM

I Bet You Don't Even Remember Me
 
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Well, I used to spend a lot of time lurking here with my 1996 BEGi/DIY turbo setup:

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But I sold the Miata in 2010 when I was 22 to buy a racebike.

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1463420052

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Then I sold the racebike to buy a house, and meanwhile got my first brand new car.

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1463420052

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1463420052

But I was only driving it 4,000 miles per year and paying $300/month for the privilege which I recently realized was stupid, so I sold the BRZ and now I'm back with a Miata.

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1463420052

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It's a 2001 Special Edition (#2114/3000 for the m.net types) with only 51k miles on it. I'm thinking it will eventually get a turbo, most likely just an FM Voodoo to keep it simple and reliable. Anyway, I'll go back to lurking now.

shuiend 05-16-2016 01:40 PM

Welcome back Sam.

mgeoffriau 05-16-2016 01:53 PM

new phone who dis?

18psi 05-16-2016 02:17 PM

welcome back.
some of us are old enough to remember you ;)

*edit: you should know better than to consider the doodoo box

Savington 05-16-2016 02:59 PM

Sup buddy. y u no TSE turbo :'(

Swanpuppy 05-16-2016 03:00 PM

Where are you in Wisconsin? I am searching for a new miata and the prices seem to be staggeringly high right now for anything worth looking at. Clean find Sam.

SamS 05-16-2016 03:23 PM


Originally Posted by 18psi (Post 1331916)
welcome back.
some of us are old enough to remember you ;)

*edit: you should know better than to consider the doodoo box


Originally Posted by Savington (Post 1331927)
Sup buddy. y u no TSE turbo :'(

I need to be able to pass OBDII emissions testing, I thought that would be the simplest way? I'm open to more robust solutions.

shuiend 05-16-2016 03:25 PM


Originally Posted by SamS (Post 1331935)
I need to be able to pass OBDII emissions testing, I thought that would be the simplest way? I'm open to more robust solutions.

Swap back to stock exhaust, ecu, and injectors when you need to do emissions testing.

18psi 05-16-2016 03:26 PM

yup

SamS 05-16-2016 03:27 PM


Originally Posted by Swanpuppy (Post 1331928)
Where are you in Wisconsin? I am searching for a new miata and the prices seem to be staggeringly high right now for anything worth looking at. Clean find Sam.

I'm in West Allis, but I drove all the way to Rochester, MN to get the car because the local search wasn't very promising. I paid $7200 for this 51k stock 1-owner car that was never driven in winters. :cool:

SamS 05-16-2016 03:30 PM


Originally Posted by shuiend (Post 1331936)
Swap back to stock exhaust, ecu, and injectors when you need to do emissions testing.

I'm wanting more of a set it and forget it 200ish whp setup. Maybe I'll change my mind by the time I'm ready to pull the trigger.

SamS 05-16-2016 03:45 PM

UPDATE: That TSE stuff looks awesome. :cool:

Swanpuppy 05-16-2016 03:48 PM


Originally Posted by SamS (Post 1331938)
I'm in West Allis, but I drove all the way to Rochester, MN to get the car because the local search wasn't very promising. I paid $7200 for this 51k stock 1-owner car that was never driven in winters. :cool:

West Allis, nice, I'm up in Grafton. Thats what I'm seeing, my radius is increasing further and further. If you get boosted I might need to barter some beer for a ride. I haven't been in a turbo miata yet.

Braineack 05-16-2016 04:48 PM

Ugh. Sam's back, quality control bot active.

18psi 05-16-2016 04:50 PM

:laugh:

SamS 05-16-2016 04:58 PM

I dunno what that means, but is it funnier knowing that I'm actually a Quality Manager?

shuiend 05-17-2016 08:51 AM


Originally Posted by SamS (Post 1331935)
I need to be able to pass OBDII emissions testing, I thought that would be the simplest way? I'm open to more robust solutions.


Originally Posted by SamS (Post 1331940)
I'm wanting more of a set it and forget it 200ish whp setup. Maybe I'll change my mind by the time I'm ready to pull the trigger.


Originally Posted by SamS (Post 1331942)
UPDATE: That TSE stuff looks awesome. :cool:

So what most people do now a days is run a MS3 of some sort for their ecu. When it comes to emissions they simply wire open the wastegate, plug in the stock ecu and injectors. Then go test that way. The new TSE turbo setup with an EFR is extremely baller. It is probably just about the best of the best you can get for a Miata when it all gets finished. The one issue is that you cannot wire open the wastegate. Since the EFR has a new IWG design that allows the flapper to hit the turbine wheel. So if you are running the TSE setup you will have to swap back to the stock exhaust. After your first time you should be able to do it quickly. I have customers in Cali who can do the swap in less then 2 hours. It is an annoying thing to do, but works and gives you a better setup over.

The order that you should do stuff is as following.

1. Go get your emissions testing so it buys you a year or two, not sure how long it lasts where you live.
2. Buy a MS3. Either get a MSPNP-PRO, a MS3X from Braineack, or a MSLabs ecu from TSE. Also buy a wideband O2 sensor. Install them NA and learn to tune.
3. Buy FlowForce injectors from TSE or Amazon and retune fuel.
4. Install a FM1 clutch.
5. Install a turbo setup of your choice.
6. Profit!


Originally Posted by SamS (Post 1331952)
I dunno what that means, but is it funnier knowing that I'm actually a Quality Manager?

Do you remember Philip? He was the original owner who then sold the site to Rick. Several years later Rick then sold the site to Internet Brands who are our new corporate overlords. Braineack changed Ricks account to be named Quality Control Bot. QCB comes around whenever someone is saying or being stupid.

SamS 05-17-2016 08:59 AM

Genuinely helpful, thanks!

Does anyone know if 18psi is ordering a trick TSE setup that he'll be parting out shortly?

18psi 05-17-2016 09:08 AM

That's on Wednesdays. It's only Tuesday young grasshopper :D

Quality Control Bot 05-17-2016 09:10 AM


Originally Posted by SamS (Post 1331952)
I dunno what that means, but is it funnier knowing that I'm actually a Quality Manager?

sup, brah.

shuiend 05-17-2016 09:13 AM


Originally Posted by SamS (Post 1332093)
Genuinely helpful, thanks!

Does anyone know if 18psi is ordering a trick TSE setup that he'll be parting out shortly?

At this point you probably have a better chance of getting a use TSE setup off FRT_FUN then 18psi.

SamS 05-17-2016 09:42 AM

Okay so obviously Megasquirt is seemingly the way to go these days, are most of the bugs worked out with them now? I think the first MSPNP's were just coming out when I was last looking. Is there a good database of base maps available now to keep the fiddling to a minimum?

My last Miata was running a Begi RRFPR, Emanage Blue, and an autotune unit from Olderguy. :laugh:

shuiend 05-17-2016 09:45 AM

You want a MS3, not anything older, as none of the rest can control VVT. All 3 makers that we buy from will give you a good base map to start from. I am biased to ones from Braineack, but thats because he is my bff.

18psi 05-17-2016 09:50 AM

the bugs are never worked out.
but to compare the modern ms3 to the sticks and stones you all used back in the stone age, its approx. 10000x better

Braineack 05-17-2016 11:25 AM


Originally Posted by shuiend (Post 1332125)
I am biased to ones from Braineack, but thats because he is my bff.

BFF4L

deezums 05-17-2016 01:36 PM


Originally Posted by shuiend (Post 1332089)
The one issue is that you cannot wire open the wastegate. Since the EFR has a new IWG design that allows the flapper to hit the turbine wheel. So if you are running the TSE setup you will have to swap back to the stock exhaust.

I'm not sure that's entirely true. It seems to me you should be able to remove the wastegate can and use a piece of allthread with a lot of lock nuts to fix the gate open as wide as possible safely. Might need a little bracket at the wastegate can plate, but might just need fender washers, too...




shuiend 05-17-2016 02:16 PM


Originally Posted by deezums (Post 1332268)
I'm not sure that's entirely true. It seems to me you should be able to remove the wastegate can and use a piece of allthread with a lot of lock nuts to fix the gate open as wide as possible safely. Might need a little bracket at the wastegate can plate, but might just need fender washers, too...

Technically you might be correct, after seeing one guy ruin his compressor wheel, I won't be the one to try to ever test it. Not worth $1200 to me to find out.

18psi 05-17-2016 02:27 PM


Originally Posted by shuiend (Post 1332290)
Technically you might be correct, after seeing one guy ruin his compressor wheel, I won't be the one to try to ever test it. Not worth $1200 to me to find out.

turbine wheel.

and I really don't see those turbos making any boost with the wg rod loosened all the way out and in part throttle below 3k rpm

Savington 05-17-2016 02:29 PM


Originally Posted by deezums (Post 1332268)
I'm not sure that's entirely true. It seems to me you should be able to remove the wastegate can and use a piece of allthread with a lot of lock nuts to fix the gate open as wide as possible safely. Might need a little bracket at the wastegate can plate, but might just need fender washers, too...

Yup. IIRC Nick (choojoofoo) did this to good effect. Take the WG bracket off, use fender washers and four nylock nuts.

DNMakinson 05-17-2016 07:38 PM


Originally Posted by SamS (Post 1332093)
Genuinely helpful, thanks!

Does anyone know if 18psi is ordering a trick TSE setup that he'll be parting out shortly?

new signature.

SamS 04-13-2017 03:49 PM

Update: I bought a used FM2 kit from greddygalant a couple months ago. Hoping to get it back on the road this weekend!:skid:

curly 04-15-2017 11:07 AM

Oh cool, you bought that. Him and I parted out that car together. Good luck!

ridethecliche 04-17-2017 10:04 PM


Originally Posted by SamS (Post 1405721)
Update: I bought a used FM2 kit from greddygalant a couple months ago. Hoping to get it back on the road this weekend!:skid:

Start a build thread if you haven't already!

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