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Wonk Unit 01-11-2009 02:16 PM

new guy from NM
 
hi, the name's Colin and obviously i'm new. i'm based in New Mexico, go to school at NMT in socorro. i've got a 99 miata i'm thinking about adding boost to. i have left over parts from a failed honda civic project so i'm going to use most of those for my new project.

goals for this project are 190 - 200 something hp, reliable, on a budget.

basic list of current parts includes
t3 60 trim turbo,
tial 38mm wastegate, (8 psi spring)
misc piping and oil lines,
gauges,
an intercooler which might be to big
greddy RS BOV. with the MS it can vent to atmosphere i think.


parts i know i'll need

megasquirt, ms2 to avoid the CAS problem
manifold, probably begi
downpipe, i'll probably try and fab my own with stuff in the shop and old civic dp
clutch
radiator
oil feed from block


questionable...

injectors? i have 1st gen dsm injectors, and access to 550 300zx injectors ( i have a feeling neither set will fit)
wideband 02?
fuel pump (have walbro 255 from civic)


i'm currently searching around and learning as i go so i may find answers to my current questions and questions i don't know i have. :)

samnavy 01-11-2009 03:07 PM

Nice first post, it looks like you've done your homework better than just about any NOOB I've ever seen. WELL DONE!

Those injectors won't work. Check the "DIY FAQ" in the DIY FORUM for a list of PnP compatible injectors. You'll probably want some Rx7 550's.

With that T3 and a '99, no reason to shoot for about 250whp at 15psi. 200whp will be easy at around 10psi... maybe less depending on your exhaust.

patsmx5 01-11-2009 03:11 PM

Welcome to the forum. I just boosted my 99', and I can tell you, it's NICE! Looks like a pretty good list of stuff. As for the wideband, YES, you want one. I've been running an Innovate LC-1 for a year and it's worked fine. Just have to follow the directions when wiring it up and it's trouble free. And another "yes" to getting a 255 fuel pump. Stocker sucks on a 99'.

BenR 01-13-2009 01:00 PM

Let me know if there's something I can help with.

hustler 01-13-2009 04:49 PM

the whitesands area is gorgeous. I love NM.

hustler 01-13-2009 05:10 PM

arroyo seca much? I recommend NM152 through the Gila Forest to Silver city. 300+ turns over 20-miles or so...just don't fall off. It made the brakes smoke in my Rav4.

9671111 01-13-2009 05:14 PM

Since you're on a budget look into the JAW wideband. Cheap and has been working great for me. People have gotten it to work with MS too.

Fireindc 01-13-2009 05:37 PM

Welcome! +1 On the wbo2, and the stock pump will work fine unless it is in questionable condition.

Woot more people in NM, not long before we can have a NM turbo miata meet, all 4 of us could show.

BenR 01-13-2009 06:13 PM


Originally Posted by Fireindc (Post 353003)
Woot more people in NM, not long before we can have a NM turbo miata meet, all 4 of us could show.





There's several turbo and supercharged miatas in Abq, and Los Lunas, few of them ever make it out to the road course or play around on the internets.

hustler 01-13-2009 06:24 PM

I want to run from santa fe to angelfire in my miata. Driving that SUV through the mountains caused me great pain.

Fireindc 01-13-2009 08:46 PM

The enchanted circle is awesome, and the downhill side of the canyon to Angelfire has a really tight section that is fun. Quite a few canyons to chose from up here..

I'm planning on making it to the track as much as possible if everything works out this year.

samnavy 01-13-2009 10:58 PM

I fucking hate it when NOOBs start a thread, get a shit-ton of feedback, are clearly logging on, and don't respond to their own threads.

jsisco 01-13-2009 11:16 PM


Originally Posted by Fireindc (Post 353003)
Woot more people in NM, not long before we can have a NM turbo miata meet, all 4 of us could show.

I would try to make a Miata meet in NM if I was given enough heads up. I might even be boosted if its in the spring. I am closer to the NM crew than the TX crew.


Originally Posted by Fireindc (Post 353066)
The enchanted circle is awesome, and the downhill side of the canyon to Angelfire has a really tight section that is fun. Quite a few canyons to chose from up here..

+1 on a lot of the roads in north NM.

AlexandertheOk 01-13-2009 11:54 PM

I didn't know there were that many other new mexico members on here. Id be so down for a NM meet.

Wonk Unit 01-14-2009 12:34 AM

sorry samnavy, i have been digging through old threads.

thanks for the warm welcome. its awesome to see some NM people. a meet would be fun, but my car wont' be boosted for quite a while, at the moment i'm just researching and picking parts.

Hustler: i have been to ASR, once. it was so much fun on stock power i can't wait to be boosted! i'm planning on being there for at least the 2 day events this year.

99mx5 02-01-2009 04:52 PM

Welcome Wonk Unit!
I just found this thread. I'm in Las Cruces. I regularly race at ASR and I'd definitely be in for a NM meet. There's a local forum called crucesstreets.com that has all the info for events at ASR.

Wonk Unit 02-01-2009 09:32 PM

thanks, i'm on cruses streets for that very reason, dont' post much though. the one ASR race i went to i saw your car, very nice! 949s look awesome in person!!

99mx5 02-02-2009 04:27 PM

Thanks! :) Dang, if I'd known who you were, I would have given you a ride-along on the track. My best time at ASR is 1:19.8

budget racer 02-02-2009 04:33 PM

i honeymooned in Santa fe.........damn that hyundai accent rental car sucked.

hustler 02-02-2009 04:55 PM

I may need to run-off to Santa Fe for a week with this trashy 22-year old I just put in my stable, lol.

Wonk Unit 02-04-2009 02:55 PM

ok, so research is going slow, the more i read the more confused i get. i'm going to start buying parts soon, but have a few questions.

injectors: in the diy faq, it says the 7mgte supra injectors are high ohm, direct fit without resistor box...then right below that it says they're low ohm...which one is it? when it says plug and play replacement does that mean just the injectors are needed, the mazda clips fit?

oh, and FD Rx7 injectors aren't on the list for PnP, would they work or no...ironic i only have injectors that don't fit.

Megasquirt...i know i should search for this, but i can't seem to find an answer. who builds a pnp for the NB? braineack? (his FS thread only says NAs and i didnt' see an answer the the guy who asked about NBs) DIYautotune? i'm sure i need a certain # of posts to actually pm braineack, but i tried anyway.

while i'm at it... EGT sensor. MS doesn't need it to run the car, its just nice for additional fine tuning and monitoring, correct? (probably not but i tried)


flame suit on, have at it.

BenR 02-04-2009 03:17 PM

Read the list again. There are two different injectors for the supra 7MGE




Complete list of Miata plug and play replacement injectors (“F” connector):

HTML Code:

Year Make/Model Engine Size/Color Part #
87-88 Toyota MR2 4AGE NA 213cc – Beige Top #23250-16080
89-91 B2220 Truck 224cc - Yellow Top? #23250-74040?
99-00 Mazda Miata 240cc - Thin Red Body #195500-4430
Toyota 4AGE 250cc – Green Top
Toyota 4AGE 250cc – Violet Top
94-97 Mazda Miata 254cc - Tan Top #195500-2180
01-05 Mazda Miata NA & TURBO 265cc - Thin Lt. Prple #195500-4060
Toyota 3SGE 295cc – Green Top
89-92 Toyota Supra 7MGE NA 305cc – Light Green Top #23250-70080
93-95 Toyota Supra 3.0L 312cc - Maroon Top #23250-46030
Toyota 3SGE 315cc – Pink Top
90-92 MX6/626/Probe Turbo 326cc - Gray Top #195500-2150
89-91 B2600 Truck 326cc - Gray Top #195500-2150
Mazda 323 GTX TURBO 360cc - Black Top #195500-2130
Celica/MR2 3SGE NA 370cc - Green Top #23250-74160
Mazda RX8 420cc - Yellow Body #195500-4450
Subaru WRX 425cc - Lt. Blue Body #3920
89-92 Toyota Supra 7MGE TURBO 430cc – Black Top
89-92 Mazda RX-7 NA 440cc - Blue Top #195500-5740
89-91 RX-7 NA 460cc - Red Top #195500-2010
Subaru STi 540cc - Thin Pink Body #3910
89-91 RX-7 TURBO 550cc - purple top #195500-2020

The same connector shape can be found on low ohm injectors, but they require wiring in resistors to increase the resistance and filing down the tabs on the sides of the injectors.

Direct fit LOW OHM injectors (“E” connector):

89-92 Toyota Supra (7MGE) NA - (295cc – Yellow Top) - #23250-70040
88-91 Toyota Collora GT-S Turbo (4AGZE) – (365cc – Red-Orange Top)
92-95 Toyota Collora GT-S TURBO (4AGZE) – (365cc – Red-Orange Top)
86-92 Toyota Supra (7MGTE) TURBO – (430cc – Black Top)
Toyota MR2 (3SGTE) TURBO – (430cc – Black Top)
High Ohm vs. Low Ohm tabs




So yes, the lime green top supras are plug and play. The yellow fit but are low OHM.

Several RX7 injectors fit. They are listed. Becareful with the Sube injectors, I'm not sure if anyone has successfully used them.

You should PM Brain, you'll likely need to wire it parallel.

MS doesn't need an EGT sensor.

Wonk Unit 02-04-2009 08:32 PM


Originally Posted by BenR (Post 363300)
Read the list again. There are two different injectors for the supra 7MGE




Complete list of Miata plug and play replacement injectors (“F” connector):

HTML Code:

Year Make/Model Engine Size/Color Part #
87-88 Toyota MR2 4AGE NA 213cc – Beige Top #23250-16080
89-91 B2220 Truck 224cc - Yellow Top? #23250-74040?
99-00 Mazda Miata 240cc - Thin Red Body #195500-4430
Toyota 4AGE 250cc – Green Top
Toyota 4AGE 250cc – Violet Top
94-97 Mazda Miata 254cc - Tan Top #195500-2180
01-05 Mazda Miata NA & TURBO 265cc - Thin Lt. Prple #195500-4060
Toyota 3SGE 295cc – Green Top
89-92 Toyota Supra 7MGE NA 305cc – Light Green Top #23250-70080
93-95 Toyota Supra 3.0L 312cc - Maroon Top #23250-46030
Toyota 3SGE 315cc – Pink Top
90-92 MX6/626/Probe Turbo 326cc - Gray Top #195500-2150
89-91 B2600 Truck 326cc - Gray Top #195500-2150
Mazda 323 GTX TURBO 360cc - Black Top #195500-2130
Celica/MR2 3SGE NA 370cc - Green Top #23250-74160
Mazda RX8 420cc - Yellow Body #195500-4450
Subaru WRX 425cc - Lt. Blue Body #3920
[B]89-92 Toyota Supra 7MGE TURBO 430cc – Black Top [/B]
89-92 Mazda RX-7 NA 440cc - Blue Top #195500-5740
89-91 RX-7 NA 460cc - Red Top #195500-2010
Subaru STi 540cc - Thin Pink Body #3910
89-91 RX-7 TURBO 550cc - purple top #195500-2020

The same connector shape can be found on low ohm injectors, but they require wiring in resistors to increase the resistance and filing down the tabs on the sides of the injectors.

Direct fit LOW OHM injectors (“E” connector):

89-92 Toyota Supra (7MGE) NA - (295cc – Yellow Top) - #23250-70040
88-91 Toyota Collora GT-S Turbo (4AGZE) – (365cc – Red-Orange Top)
92-95 Toyota Collora GT-S TURBO (4AGZE) – (365cc – Red-Orange Top)
86-92 Toyota Supra (7MGTE) TURBO – (430cc – Black Top)
Toyota MR2 (3SGTE) TURBO – (430cc – Black Top)
High Ohm vs. Low Ohm tabs




So yes, the lime green top supras are plug and play. The yellow fit but are low OHM.

Several RX7 injectors fit. They are listed. Becareful with the Sube injectors, I'm not sure if anyone has successfully used them.

You should PM Brain, you'll likely need to wire it parallel.

MS doesn't need an EGT sensor.

thats what i see, is a 7MGE Turbo, different than the 7MGTE?...i'll probably go for the 550 rx7 injectors anyway. thanks ben. i'll pm brain again.

EDIT: wow...ok i see it now, the 7mge turbo is 89-92, the 7mgte is 86-92. i didn't know they had different turbo engines.

BenR 02-05-2009 01:25 PM

Good spot. Maby we need a supra expert to weigh in.

Toddcod 02-05-2009 04:39 PM


Originally Posted by Fireindc (Post 353066)
The enchanted circle is awesome, and the downhill side of the canyon to Angelfire has a really tight section that is fun. Quite a few canyons to chose from up here..

I'm planning on making it to the track as much as possible if everything works out this year.

Yea, i was beating on the SUV and drove up on a 4wd Sheriff. EEEERrrrrrrrr. Braked it hard.
It would be fun if they wern't there.

Funny thing, we were heading to Veil, and a sheriff pulling a rescue station slid sidways blocking the whole highway, hit the rail, and wound up facing the wronge direction. He is lucky to be alive.

Yea I bet ya, he needed new shorts right along with me and my girl.

They also have the biggest RABBITS! I have ever seen. I would so barbeque one up. I think they missed the turn near Al-buuur-quirk---yyy. LoL

Wonk Unit 02-05-2009 06:42 PM


Originally Posted by BenR (Post 363825)
Good spot. Maby we need a supra expert to weigh in.

i did talk to a friend with a MKIII and he did say there were some changes in the MKIII turbo motors. i think i want bigger ones though, so RX7s it is.


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