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Originally Posted by borka
(Post 1503275)
The best platform to start is an nb miata. 99-05
unless you love the pop up headlights. Then 94-97 is all the same. |
I'm in FL. OBD only matters in other states.
Planning on tracking the car? |
Originally Posted by MrYoungblood
(Post 1503307)
Headlights weren't the deciding factor. Older vehicles usually have larger (more room) in the engine bays. My 88 land cruiser was like that and most other older cars I've seen, and the NA's looked like they did too, so I started there and didn't really look into NB. But good to know, and all the same 99-04? Also, I started looking into MS, does it help at all to have OBDII or does it not matter?
I had a well written and extremely long reply, but I got distracted by the cat thread and lost everything when I tabbed back. Here is a tl:dr version: Dimensionally NAs and NBs are so close that most things swap among all the variants. 99-00 have the BP4W. 01-05 have VVT. 04 is also the first year for the MSM. NBs have different combos of transmissions and rear ends. You should spend some time looking into which combo meets your particular needs. When choosing a megasquirt, you pick one that is made for your car's model year. OBDII is mostly irrelevant. There is a lengthy sticky detailing the differences among manufacturers. Read the stickies. The one in my signature is a good place to start. Also, our search function sucks. Type miataturbo.net followed by whatever you're looking for into Google. For instance; typing "miataturbo.net cats" will find This thread for you. |
Originally Posted by MrYoungblood
(Post 1503307)
Headlights weren't the deciding factor. Older vehicles usually have larger (more room) in the engine bays. My 88 land cruiser was like that and most other older cars I've seen, and the NA's looked like they did too, so I started there and didn't really look into NB. But good to know, and all the same 99-04? Also, I started looking into MS, does it help at all to have OBDII or does it not matter?
Originally Posted by sixshooter
(Post 1503311)
I'm in FL. OBD only matters in other states.
Planning on tracking the car? |
Originally Posted by Monk
(Post 1503314)
I had a well written and extremely long reply, but I got distracted by the cat thread and lost everything when I tabbed back.
Here is a tl:dr version: Dimensionally NAs and NBs are so close that most things swap among all the variants. 99-01 have the BP4W. 01-04 have VVT. 01 is also the first year for the MSM. NBs have different combos of transmissions and rear ends. You should spend some time looking into which combo meets your particular needs. When choosing a megasquirt, you pick one that is made for your car's model year. OBDII is mostly irrelevant. There is a lengthy sticky detailing the differences among manufacturers. Read the stickies. The one in my signature is a good place to start. Also, our search function sucks. Type miataturbo.net followed by whatever you're looking for into Google. For instance; typing "miataturbo.net cats" will find This thread for you. MS-alright, that makes things a little simplet. Thanks Also, I found the cat thread and the insert b.s. here thread..i feel right at home here haha |
Originally Posted by Monk
(Post 1503314)
I had a well written and extremely long reply, but I got distracted by the cat thread and lost everything when I tabbed back.
Here is a tl:dr version: Dimensionally NAs and NBs are so close that most things swap among all the variants. 99-01 have the BP4W. 01-04 have VVT. 01 is also the first year for the MSM. NBs have different combos of transmissions and rear ends. You should spend some time looking into which combo meets your particular needs. When choosing a megasquirt, you pick one that is made for your car's model year. OBDII is mostly irrelevant. There is a lengthy sticky detailing the differences among manufacturers. Read the stickies. The one in my signature is a good place to start. Also, our search function sucks. Type miataturbo.net followed by whatever you're looking for into Google. For instance; typing "miataturbo.net cats" will find This thread for you. 99-00 bp4w 01-05 have vvt 01 first year of MSM? what? 04-05 only. |
and quite to the contrary, 99-05 have more engine bay room, as the pop up headlights take up lots of space.
99-05 have more fender clearance for wider tires 225-245 01-05 have more under bracing, making for a stiffer chassis. also have better looking front end with better headlights. there are also special edition cars, such as 99 10th anniversary, 2000 SE, 2001 SE, 2002 SE. those are very desirable in the turbo world, as they already have a 3.9 torsen rear and a 6 speed. and later 01-02 SE cars have bigger sport brakes. i suggest you first read up on all the various miata models and years, and come back to these forums a more educated noob. |
Originally Posted by borka
(Post 1503336)
and quite to the contrary, 99-05 have more engine bay room, as the pop up headlights take up lots of space.
99-05 have more fender clearance for wider tires 225-245 01-05 have more under bracing, making for a stiffer chassis. also have better looking front end with better headlights. there are also special edition cars, such as 99 10th anniversary, 2000 SE, 2001 SE, 2002 SE. those are very desirable in the turbo world, as they already have a 3.9 torsen rear and a 6 speed. and later ones 01-02 have bigger sport brakes. i suggest you first read up on all the various miata models and years, and come back to these forums a more educated noob. |
Originally Posted by HmoobDude
(Post 1503338)
I thought the bigger sport brakes were options on 01-02 and then became standard on all 03+?
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Originally Posted by HmoobDude
(Post 1503338)
I thought the bigger sport brakes were options on 01-02 and then became standard on all 03+?
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Originally Posted by borka
(Post 1503343)
that's correct. But I am talking about special edition 01-02 which have 6 speeds and sport brakes
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Originally Posted by borka
(Post 1503335)
so many wrongs here.
99-00 bp4w 01-05 have vvt 01 first year of MSM? what? 04-05 only. As I said, I quickly rewrote a much longer post. Should have proof-read. |
01-02 is God's Miata.
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This is a long thread that could have been a 15 second google search.
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I mean, if you want to get real technical, in 2001 mazda did have the mazdaspeed roadster that was in laser blue with gold wheels but it was naturally aspirated. But I doubt that is what the the poster above was referring to and it was a Japan only car.
2001 Mazdaspeed Roadster (since May 2001 for Japan special edition) specs review But. To the OP, do what concealer404 said and buy anything that is 94 or newer. It just isn't worth modifying a 1.6 miata engine wise when for the same money you can start with a better platform. Ask me how I know. |
So I've done as much research as I can so far while at work since yesterday. Considering NB..not sure 1 vs 2. Also, SN, I've never boosted an engine so all this is new to me. What I've learned has brought new questions..
1-BP4W vs BPZ3..ive learned there's better compression and a better intake port angle, from 39* to 51*, but with VVT..dooes that make tuning easier? Also, I don't plan on making a monster, just like early to mid 200 whp. 2- torsen vs tochigi-fuji..torsen is better in corners. Is that really it? Also, in the same article/thread I saw the same person in the same post say, stock 1.8L diff can handle +400whp then later say OS Giken/Cusco/Kauz recommended for +200whp. So I'm lost there 3- 5spd vs 6spd..race vs cruising respectively? And "better?" gearing, 4.30:1 vs 3.909:1. I assumed 3.9 is desirable over 4.3 due to increased mid range torque. 4- NB2 bigger brakes, more bracing, which is nice, but I read premium isn't worth it when you can put a vvt on a bp4w on regular gas and have higher output, true? P.S. trying my best not to be noob swine |
You're learning. Good. You will do well here if you keep that up.
1) 4w is easier/simpler. the z3/6d makes more torque due to vvt 2) tf is unreliable and many have failed. 6sp holds way more power/torque and has better track gearing 3) 3.9 if turbo 4.3 if n/a 4) no, not true. |
99-00 4w is simpler to tune, since no vvt 01-05 vvt makes a tad more low-midrange torque due to having vvt. both are fine engines, both can easily make 250hp stock.
1.8L diff can take 400hp, its very rare for them to break. aftermarket diffs only for the serious track cars. You will be just fine making 200-250hp in any 94-05 Miata. so pick a body style that you like and find a clean car that has a torsen rear. I've personally owned all generations, 1.6 NA 1.8NA, NB1, NB2 and my favorite is my current 02 NB2. the chassis bracing makes a big difference in refining ride quality, and the bumper/headlights are better styled. |
Originally Posted by 18psi
(Post 1503501)
You're learning. Good. You will do well here if you keep that up.
1) 4w is easier/simpler. the z3/6d makes more torque due to vvt 2) tf is unreliable and many have failed. 6sp holds way more power/torque and has better track gearing 3) 3.9 if turbo 4.3 if n/a 4) no, not true. 1- 4w looks like the way to go 2- stick to torsen? Or should I go for a clutch pack like Giken, etc.. 3- 3.9 it is. 4- good to know Also, how TF do you break your paragraphs?? Like old-school MySpace [/break] word [/paragraph] word. I was testing with that <- lol |
Regurgitated, but consolidated
90-93: 1.6L motor (B6P) 4.3:1 6” rear differential Flippy flappy headlights Don’t buy unless you like spending money twice 94-97: 1.8L motor (BP05 head) 9:1 CR Hydraulic lifters Not so awesome flowing head 4.1:1 7” rear differential introduced 99-00: 1.8L (BP4W head) 9.5:1 CR Solid lifters introduced Head flows better VICS intake manifold makes best mid-range torque Optional 6spd introduced. 6spd is generally considered more clunky but stronger than 5 speed 4.3:1 ratio for 5 spd, 3.9:1 ratio for 6 spd Seats generally despised No more flippy flappy headlights 01-05: 1.8L (BP6D head) 10:1 CR VVT introduced These heads make the most power, but take a little bit more tuning work to optimize VVT VTCS intake manifold is junk. Gut the butterflies, or Get a JDM/EUDM “flat top”, skunk2 manifold, or VICS manifold Optional sport brakes 2003+ NB2 refresh made optional sport brakes standard NB2 refresh switched from torsen to to-fu LSD. 3.9:1 ratio 04-05 Mazdaspeed miata: Much dollars, much bragging rights. More or less a BP4W with a dookie turbo system on it. Strong rear dif with axles made from unicorn tears that you can’t get. The point & pay option. |
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