New to miatas
 

Hey guys, new here, been lurking for a while though.

ive owned a few 240s, KA/SR, and have gotten pretty used to sliding them around on the street and track. driven KAs with welded diffs, monster SR's, stock of sr's, all sorts of different suspension mods on all of them.

heres some of my old cars: (im selling the s14 right now)
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So im buying a friend's 1997 MX5 in a couple weeks.

considering ive never owned one before, I figured you all may be able to help a bit.

plans with my mx5 are stance coilovers, first and foremost; welded diff, roll cage / bar, maybe a hydro handbrake, upgraded calipers/pads/rotors.



do any of you have experience drifting a miata, compared to a 240? i hear they are a lot of fun, and WAY more reliable in a lot of ways.



the car has 177xxx miles on it, runs good with consistent matienence (doesnt burn oil or make strange sounds whatsoever).

hah im planning on beating the hell out of it, clutch kicks/hard track driving (will be changing clutch out with an exedy oem).

you all think the mileage is too high to be doing this sort of driving?




also, what sort of lightweight wheels would you all recommend? I cant seem to find anything in an offset I like, with the weight im looking for.

been checking out rota slipstreams 15x7.5 +20, but im looking for an offset between 10 and 0.

also checked out enkei rpf1s in 15s, but the widest offset is +35 :bang:

a friend of mine is selling some 15x8 bassett wheels +6 offset, which need a slight fender pull to fit right- exactly what im looking for.

but they weigh something around ~20 lbs each, WAY too heavy to use on a NA mx5 drift car, in my opinion. you all agree?


would a miata make a solid drift car, or am i going at this completely wrong? im tired of 240 problems.

just looking for some input really. thanks, and sorry for the wall of text.

www.clubroadster.net

They tend to cater more to the drift crowd. For the record, Miatas are notoriously difficult to drift because of the short wheelbase. Miatas are relatively bullet proof, but you driftboiz could tear up an anvil with your bare hands so nothing is certain.

oh god another one of those

:facepalm:

thanks for the input.

Just FYI (drift+mt.net=flame war). But i can speak from experience, as i do have a miata i am currently competing in FD pro am events. Miatas make decent drifters, i reccomend you visit www.roadsterdrift.com. Theres alot of usefull info. Or use the search function and look up "tube front drifter", great build and lots of usefull info.

looks like a cool thread, im not looking to turbo my motor until after it pops, when i build the entire motor from the bottom up.

ive built many cars and know my fair share, if you really have to flame, you may as well save it and spend your time either trying to help someone, or doing something more productive.

thanks for the reply though.

the tube-front drifter looks like an awesome build, but im really not a fan of the exterior. decent wheels, look to have a good offset going, but the sideskirts and front fender vent looks goofy, along with the rear overfenders that dont match up to the rear bumper.

with some love and about a 3 inch drop id say that car would be on point. amazing motor build and the cage looks super clean though.

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You'll be able to find great answers to your questions and more at roadsterdrift.com !

So you want to drift the miata on stockish horsepower?

Oh and please don't say ITB's.

If you are planning to weld the diff and its a torsen, sell it and get an open diff and you will have enough money left over for that clutch you want.

You'd be surprised.

Anyways. That was a perfect CR intro thread. Welcome to here.

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http://www.949racing.com/15x9/15x9_6UL_275_NB_5.JPG

what make/model wheels are those?

thank you good sir
ITBs would require a new fuel system and a lot of custom work on the intake manifold, i believe.

im not modifying the motorset whatsoever. except for a 2" resonated mexi-straight pipe. haha.

yes, stock-ish horsepower. maybe a lightweight flywheel when i change out the clutch.

thats actually a really good idea, thanks. probably will save me money on labor too, because the welder wont have to take out/install the diff.

i HATE diff swaps though .. i always come out looking like a coal miner :crx:

thanks duder.

and yes, a welded diff. ghettofabulous.

i dont think a torsen will be aggressive enough for me, combined with the lack of power.

what do you all think, sound like itll be a rowdy drift car?

240s feel rickety to me, i dont know how to explain it. theres a lot of body flex i feel like miatas dont experience.

my plan is to have some super light wheels, welded diff, coilovers at MAX low; hopefully itll be a bad ass street car.

Ibtl.

and why exactly would an intro thread be locked?

I was gaining some level of respect for you until I read "Coilovers at MAX low"

i wouldnt be wasting my time here if i didnt think you all would be able to help me out.

and what exactly does YOUR car look like?

Ummmm, its not an issue of "looks", its an issue of functionality.

sooo... like a gay turd? lol ;)

both of which are equally important.

i could easily buy a stock, used 350z and have it function amazingly.

however i choose to own older cars.. which function well without a doubt if taken care of properly, but with the money saved that i could have used to get a newer car? i feel that with that money, your car DESERVES to be unique and look equally as good as it functions. im not a huge fan of old, bone stock cars.

btw, MAX low may have been an exaageration, my cars are all tastefully low.

When you enter miataTURBO.net and speak of drifting a stock car, you can't expect to be welcomed like a hero.
The URL should speak for it self..
It is a dedicated forum, and differs from miata.net and clubroadster because of it.

The pictured wheels are made by Emilio at 949racing.com, and are made for the Miata, giving you the biggest wheels possible inside the fenders without modifications. It lets you run 225 slicks legally.

The offset isn't fatlace, so you'll probably not end up there, but the weight is amazing.
With a bit of spacing they might fit your needs though..

Since you're drifting with a stock car, I assume you'll be running with a massive negative camber, so you can easily run with much lower offsets.

your 240's probably feel rickety because you've turned them to shit the same way you plan on doing to the miata. As soon as you weld your diff and go coilovers at MAX low, you're going to immediately see the miata as a piece of shit - it won't turn at slow speeds, it wont turn at fast speeds, it simply wont turn. Combine the fact that it wont turn with the fact that you're going to feel like your teeth are mounted to an air chisel everytime you hit a bump, and it wont be "bad ass" - it will simply be "ass".

Oh, and IBTL, because the OP is only open to suggestions that he wants to hear, and he didn't read/comply with the stickies.

my 240s all felt shitty because i had cheap old coilovers, old worn bushings, etc.

wdf do you mean it wont turn? do you mean itll slide, instead of turn? because thats what im looking for.

i KNOW what it feels like to drive a car with coilovers, you dont need to tell me how itll feel on my teeth. thanks .

This site is dedicated to turbo miata's. You've no plans to boost.
This site is all about function>form. You want to slam your car and weld the diff.
This site hates drifting (aka buttsecksing) and doesn't recognize it as any type of motorsport, and you're looking to do just that.

You're more than welcome to stay, but I highly doubt you will. You'll see why very soon. Just a matter of time.

Its not that we don't like you. Its that you stand for everything we hate.

**edit: on the other hand, if you can take harrassment and don't let anything get to you, this place is a wealth of info should you happen to change your mind about drifting retardation and actually make your car fast.

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I am very capable of having a "MAX LOW" Miata if I wanted it, but I prefer handling over looks. It's what the Miata is all about.

You may be the best drifter the world has ever seen (Which you're not), but you're still a retard. Go to clubroadster.net and you will be welcomed like a hero.

See, here at MT.net, we love functionality as well as looks. We don't like one or the other. By slamming a car (Lowest it'll go), you're eliminating the functionality. It'll still work, but not nearly as well as it could; you're needlessly sacrificing practicality for style. You won't find many supporters of that here - you'll find plenty of supporters of that over on CR.net.

If you're interested in turbo-ing your car at some point, I recommend coming back here, but not flaunting your "MAX low". There are respected people here with slammed cars, but they are respected because they acknowledge that it is detrimental and just for looks, and they mostly keep it to themselves. However, you seem to have no intention of turboing it. You came here posting plans that are the epitome of CR.net, and the opposite of what we're about here.

In conclusion: Go away unless you're going to discuss turboing your car.

EDIT: Fuck you 18psi, you beat me to it.

Haha, I love this place :D

a proper setup drift car should be able to pull respectable grip lap times with minor changes.

Dude, seriously......there is a search button at the top right of your screen. "use it" and if you spent the time to read the "my tube front drifter" instead of treating it like a picture book you probably would have learned a thing or two and save us the headache of dealing with your lazyass. :jerkit:

I dont know a whole lot about drifting but i can sure say that the guy that made the thread mentioned above knows a hell of alot more than you do and thats why his car isnt scrapping his subframes on the ground.

If you were looking to do things the wrong way, halfass and take nothing but short cuts that will lead you no where , you should have steered clear of this amazing place and stick to POS 240s.

To be completely honest, I couldnt finish reading any of your post. Thats how annoyed I was getting and truthfully I dont know why your still here. I dont get annoyed easily so saying your annoying the fuck out of me is saying something (your lucky your ass hasnt been banned yet) so use the grace that has been givin to you and do your homework, then try to start a decent thread with what you plan to do!

I have alot of respect for the some of the guys on here that are producing cars to compete in drifting compotitions. They are putting alot of hard work and R&D into their builds. So far I have zero respect for you and what your trying to do....

k, Im done....












wait!

One more thing, I feel very sad for whatever miata gets to be your victim. That car could of had true potential in someones hands other than yours....

K, now Im done....

No don't go to clubroadster...

roadsterdrift has a lot more discussion and knowledge on making a miata 'fuctional' for drifting.

CR will tell you how to make your car fuctional to hard park.



Just saying....

:giggle: he should just stick with shitty ass 240s!

I believe TURNS101 is one of our most respected drifters, I think he is sponsored by Falcon. send him a PM.

lol, he is among a few of teh drift dudes I respect!

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