concealer404

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So it's exactly the same, except it's not the same.


Have you considered an M45 and a Powercard?

chicksdigmiatas

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Dont get me wrong, i have no problem with people doing this.



























If they can weld.

matrussell122

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It's been mentioned and I'm sure by now you know it. You bout the wrong turbo and are trying to make it work but it's just not cost effective. Try to return the turbo and in not just eat the $200 run NA for now and piece together a good kit. Kraken has a nice manifold and lots If gt2560 and gt2554 turbos for sale. We are all like minded and trying to help but we also expect you to search and do your homework.

Trevoresquivel

No I personally don't weld. I went to a technical school during High School for a automotive program and at the same school they have a welding program. I met a lot of friends along the way that would be willing to hep me out. also the school is always looking for projects for the students to practice on (no it's not just high school kids. It is a legit program). Also living in AZ there are a lot of fabricators in the area to choose from. Needless to say I have a couple options. I plan on taking my time and just tackling one little project at a time. And to answer your engine management question I will be going with a megasquirt unit, not sure which one yet though. I am really set on going with the t3 50 trim turbo. I have read lots of good things about it on this forum. Supposedly it spools nearly identical to a 2554. I did mean to get the one with the vband and internal wastegate but I didn't pay attention when I bought the turbo. I am not to upset about it though because I've read a few bad things about the internal wastegate on this turbo and external is just all around better except for that fact that it is more complex. I will make a build thread and title it " The little noob that could" so keep an eye out for it maybe if you guys are lucky I will fail and you can use it as a example.

Trevoresquivel

Yeah I understand what your saying and I appreciate all the the advice it's just that I already have my mind made and I want to go with the ebay t3 50 trim. I just had a simple question and it was, is it the same turbo minus the vband and the wastegate. I already knew the answer kinda. I just was looking for reassurance. And believe it or not I have been reading for over a year. My original plan was to go with a begi mani and a t25 turbo but I recently came across turbo toms build and I got into reading other peoples builds with the same turbo and I had to have it. I used to have a bugeye wrx with full bolt ons. I bought it that way and realized if it ever broke I would have no clue what to do. So I sold it and bought a miata because I wanted to learn how to work on cars and we'll I figured a miata was the perfect car to do that with. So if this is a little more of a challenging route I'm okay with that.

concealer404

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It's not in the same universe.

That said... since you have your mind made up, good luck.

turbofan

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Why did you come here? You had your mind made up from the beginning and just wanted us to back up your idea.

We don't want you to fail (or, at least, we didn't when you first started posting). At this point though... It'd probably be good for you.

Good luck!

chicksdigmiatas

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Journal bearing 80's design vs ball bearing 90's design.

Trevoresquivel

So no one rememebrs when Greg Peters said on his youtube channel not to get a T3 because they all suck and have enormous amount of lag. And then people on this forum got mad and told him that their t3 50 trims had better spool then his 276hp setup with the 2554. cause I remember lol

concealer404

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I don't know who that is, so nope i don't.

I also don't care. The T3 in question doesn't spool as quickly as a GT2554r. Full stop.

Joseph Conley

I think the key difference was Greg was still on a 1.6 at the time and the people seeing good spool out of their T3 50 trims are on 1.8s.

Another difference is Greg listens to the advice of the people on this forum who have years of experience turbo charging Miatas.

ryansmoneypit

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You dont sound like you want to spend a ton of money and are not well versed in turbo miatii. So, one last time....Your turbo choice is making this journey more complicated and more expensive. Find a good 2560 for about 300-50 bucks or a good 2554 for much less. this is the easy street.

chicksdigmiatas

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I have a chinese 2854 I can sell you for $100. It spools faster than a 2554, because if you put it on a 1.6 it will be more revvy. Also, the oil seal is leaky, so that increases exhaust gas volume.



Edit: On a side note, did you even read this thread? Most of the crappy spool I see is based on a poor tune and poorly matched parts, anyways. I am sure I can find the right dyno chart and show how my chinese 2871 out spools a 2560 if I use enough confirmation bias in my search. (I think we all know there is no way in hell it ever would)

https://www.miataturbo.net/diy-turbo...ol-data-26641/

matrussell122

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Another option is to step up to the plate and get the TSE turbo kit with efr 6258 but that seems like a big step.

You have so many options to do this right and have a great setup. But your path is steering you away from that quick

And once again my whole churbo setup will be up on here in the next couple months for a 1.6 and one of those fancy smancy ball bearing things

turbofan

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Dude.

I appreciate your enthusiasm, but you're not going to get a guy who has his dick in the wrong $200 turbo to give it up and shell out for an EFR setup.

ryansmoneypit

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But brooooo, he is already 200 bucks deep into this project, can't turn back now!
shiiiiiiiit, wait till you got 4k wrapped up into it and then realize that you did it all wrong. 1,500 turbos are a theoretical possibility, but only for someone about 9 levels up from you. Throw that piece of **** in the toilet and start over now. Trust us.
Later dood, I'll check In regularly for updates. Wanting action but expecting comedy.

Trevoresquivel

Ebay Turbo ( already have) - 150
Taco taco manifold (already have) - 125
Custom Downpipe - let's say 300
Mspnp (don't know which one yet) - 800
cx racing Intercooler ( already have) - 90
Ebay Intercooler pipes + anything extra not in kit - 100
ebay Oil lines - 40
Act clutch ( haven't done enough research yet to see if lightweight flywheel is needed) - 400
ebay WG ( we will see what happens) - 80
Ebay bov ( we will see what happens) -50
Intake - 30
Force flow dynamics Injectors - 300 (unless I find cheaper better option)
Boost gauge -50
Wideband - 200

Total - 2715

So this leaves me with a little over $1000 to get a exhaust setup, make mistakes and buy any other things I will need along the way and be at the same price of the mk kit. Plus I get a clutch. sorry for all the misunderstanding. I guess the title of the thread was a little misleading but my question was not what turbo should I get but if it was the same one as the one used in the mk kit. It is the same turbo but it doesn't have a wastegate and doesn't have a vband. I kind of already knew that just wanted reassurance. I do appreciate all the advice. Do you guys think not having the vband will create a little more room for a downpipe? So I could possible go with a 3" downpipe? Just a thought.

And sorry about my comment on the t3 vs the 2554 I'm sure that does come from a lot of biased research. I have obviously have no experience but i have read in a few threads that they have similar spool.

This will not be my daily driver btw. I'm just a 19 year old kid trying to learn a thing a or two. It's all going to be okay.

Trevoresquivel

If this turbo is so bad then why is the mk kit so highly recommended? Other then it would be a million times easier to install.

18psi

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my daddy told me to learn from stupid people's mistakes, instead of making my own. it's a lot less expensive that way.

carry on

ryansmoneypit

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You are delusional my friend. Let us know how the wastegate works out, Its a total mystery to all of us. Get me the name of the guy who makes $300 external wastegate down pipes. I have a business proposition for him.