1.8 TB/TPS for use with 1.6 wiring
I know that this is a fairly common subject of discussion, but I've not been able to find a simple statement on how to correctly wire a 4 wire 1.8 tps pigtail into a 1.6 wiring harness.
I have the pinout for a 1.8 TPS listed as: Lt Green / Red = 5vref Red/Blue = TPS Signal Red = WOT Switch Blk/ Blue = GND Per Brain. And was told by Reverant that I should be able to ignore the 4th wire, in this case the WOT, and just pair up the other 3. Can someone clue me in to the pinout of a 1.6 TPS plug so I can match the wiring? Or give me a rundown on which color wire should go to which? Or just let me know if I'm somehow missing something and this will not work how I intend it to? Much appreciated. |
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Originally Posted by aidandj
(Post 1263140)
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I feel the need to chime in here, for my setup this was incorrect. It may be my MS harness was wired slightly backwards, but in any event I had to reverse the 5vRef and TPS signal (Green with white stripe and I think black/green) wires to get a good reading. What was weird was it did "Work" but would bounce all over the place and my calibration values were like 720-820 when it was wrong, but when I reversed the wires and made it correct these values were 100-800ish (Notice it's a much wider range and thus is less susceptible to noise).
Most important thing is your values in calibration look are about 100-7/800. Otherwise reverse it. As always solid red (tps sensor side) is unused. |
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Originally Posted by compuw22c
(Post 1265714)
I feel the need to chime in here, for my setup this was incorrect. It may be my MS harness was wired slightly backwards, but in any event I had to reverse the 5vRef and TPS signal (Green with white stripe and I think black/green) wires to get a good reading. What was weird was it did "Work" but would bounce all over the place and my calibration values were like 720-820 when it was wrong, but when I reversed the wires and made it correct these values were 100-800ish (Notice it's a much wider range and thus is less susceptible to noise).
Most important thing is your values in calibration look are about 100-7/800. Otherwise reverse it. As always solid red (tps sensor side) is unused. I did find this which I think could be helpful for people going forward. (I've not tested it to see if it works yet though, hopefully I'm not propagating bullshit) https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1442157291 |
Originally Posted by compuw22c
(Post 1265714)
I feel the need to chime in here, for my setup this was incorrect. It may be my MS harness was wired slightly backwards, but in any event I had to reverse the 5vRef and TPS signal (Green with white stripe and I think black/green) wires to get a good reading. What was weird was it did "Work" but would bounce all over the place and my calibration values were like 720-820 when it was wrong, but when I reversed the wires and made it correct these values were 100-800ish (Notice it's a much wider range and thus is less susceptible to noise).
Most important thing is your values in calibration look are about 100-7/800. Otherwise reverse it. As always solid red (tps sensor side) is unused. |
Originally Posted by JesseTheNoob
(Post 1269592)
Thank you so much for posting this as I just finished a 1.8 swap myself and couldn't figure out why my values were stuck between 830 and 999 and moved a lot, I will try this out as soon as I get a chance.
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I have the pinout for a 1.8 TPS listed as: Lt Green / Red = 5vref Red/Blue = TPS Signal Red = WOT Switch Blk/ Blue = GND then you should connect: RED to RED/BLUE BLACK to BLK/BLUE GREEN to Lt Green/Red according to this: https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1443208379 so therefore id wire it like this: https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...48ef37bcd8.png what elfering suggest will never work. |
I'm still having issues with this myself, after trying with that picture I had found. Its definitely not correct. I'll try with the suggestion that Braineack made today.
Unfortunately I'm using a TPS plug Snipped from a protege and the wire colors are different so there's a small amount of translation to be done. |
Originally Posted by Elfering
(Post 1269898)
from a protege and the wire colors are different so there's a small amount of translation to be done.
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Seem to have gotten this figured out but my tps gauge still wanders a good 5-10% when left alone. I'm guessing that's probably due to signal noise and I'll probably wrap my signal wire in tin foil or something to try to help it. (At least the solder joint portion).
For future generations sharing my struggle, using the pictures above and looking at the 1.8 tps plug with the press release facing upwards. From left to right: Pin 1 to Green and White 1.6 wire. Pin 2 to Red 1.6 wire. Pin 3 gets left out Pin 4 to Black and Green 1.6 wire. |
Originally Posted by Elfering
(Post 1269948)
Seem to have gotten this figured out but my tps gauge still wanders a good 5-10% when left alone. I'm guessing that's probably due to signal noise and I'll probably wrap my signal wire in tin foil or something to try to help it. (At least the solder joint portion).
For future generations sharing my struggle, using the pictures above and looking at the 1.8 tps plug with the press release facing upwards. From left to right: Pin 1 to Green and White 1.6 wire. Pin 2 to Red 1.6 wire. Pin 3 gets left out Pin 4 to Black and Green 1.6 wire. |
Originally Posted by JesseTheNoob
(Post 1269950)
Your relaying the exact diagram Brain just gave, mine is wired that way but it still is full of issues
Sounds like you may want to try your chances with another TPS. Best of luck. |
Originally Posted by Elfering
(Post 1269948)
Seem to have gotten this figured out but my tps gauge still wanders a good 5-10% when left alone. I'm guessing that's probably due to signal noise and I'll probably wrap my signal wire in tin foil or something to try to help it. (At least the solder joint portion).
For future generations sharing my struggle, using the pictures above and looking at the 1.8 tps plug with the press release facing upwards. From left to right: Pin 1 to Green and White 1.6 wire. Pin 2 to Red 1.6 wire. Pin 3 gets left out Pin 4 to Black and Green 1.6 wire. https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...e20494ae1.jpeg (Sorry if formatting is off, did this on the iPhone) |
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I made a much better diagram that's in my 1.6L MS3X and DIYPNP install docs:
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...6afe94f169.png OE = 90-93 the above is really confusing. "black lead on DVM" ???? for both the 5v and ground? Nice diagram, asshole. |
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Originally Posted by Braineack
(Post 1345370)
I made a much better diagram that's in my 1.6L MS3X and DIYPNP install docs:
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...6afe94f169.png OE = 90-93 the above is really confusing. "black lead on DVM" ???? for both the 5v and ground? Nice diagram, asshole. And yes the writing on the picture was gibberish. |
Originally Posted by Braineack
(Post 1345370)
I made a much better diagram that's in my 1.6L MS3X and DIYPNP install docs:
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...6afe94f169.png OE = 90-93 the above is really confusing. "black lead on DVM" ???? for both the 5v and ground? Nice diagram, asshole. |
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