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tuckermon 10-26-2015 09:14 AM

AFR bouncing all around
 
Hi All,
I just started having this issue, Nothing has really changed, I've loaded older configs onto my MS3 just to see if it was a tuning issue, issue was still there so I reverted back to my current tune. AFR are stable during idle, engine feels fine, not jumpy or rough. Just don't want to ignore it. Has been running great for a few years. This video is just light cruising, no load, 4th gear. I'll post a log soon.

2004 MSM
MS3 ECU
775 FIC injectors,
2560R Garrett
BEGI S4 Manifold (new style)
Artech exhaust,
Turbosmart Bypass


Braineack 10-26-2015 09:15 AM

what does your MS3 log show?

pdexta 10-26-2015 10:21 AM

I've had a similar issue that was resolved by decreasing the authority on EGO correction. It seemed to be over-correcting AFR's resulting in it oscillating between rich and lean.

cyotani 10-26-2015 10:29 AM

I've had this issue with a noisy TPS signal causing tps-dot to be high and triggering accel enrichment when it shouldn't have been triggered.

ihiryu 10-26-2015 12:04 PM


Originally Posted by pdexta (Post 1278506)
I've had a similar issue that was resolved by decreasing the authority on EGO correction. It seemed to be over-correcting AFR's resulting in it oscillating between rich and lean.

Same, mine was set at 25, or something crazy, dropped it down to 15. Also double check your AFR table and find out if you're using "Incorporate AFR table" or not for your fueling.

18psi 10-26-2015 12:07 PM

IF the issue randomly appeared without changing anything then it's not a tune/ego issue

ihiryu 10-26-2015 12:11 PM

Ah, maybe dead sensor? You say the car runs fine.

tuckermon 10-26-2015 01:19 PM

2 Attachment(s)
Car seems to run fine, with the exception of a cold start issue I've been hunting down for about a year.

Here is a log of a drive at lunchtime.

tuckermon 10-27-2015 08:47 AM

Would a bad injector cause something like this? I t idles fine, but as soon as any load it put to the car (even just holding the rpms at 1900 while the car is stationary) causes the AFR to jump around. I've checked everything I could, used older tunes to make sure it's not a tune issue.

tuckermon 10-30-2015 08:58 AM

bump?

Stealth97 10-30-2015 09:05 AM


Originally Posted by tuckermon (Post 1279698)
bump?

Is your injector PW moving around with AFR changes?

tuckermon 10-30-2015 09:44 AM

no, the pulse widths are steady.

tuckermon 11-06-2015 08:07 PM

Ok, so answer time. I took a chance and figured the O2 sensor was bad. I talked with AEM with zero help, they actually gave me a replacement part number that was 30-2004 (don't buy this). I ordered the sensor online and it did not have the same plug connection. I called them back and they told me that it was a 50/50 chance of the sensor and that the other part number was 30-2001. I then ordered that sensor ($80). While doing some research on the 30-2001 part number, I found out that it's the same as a Bosch 17018 O2 sensor ($55). I ordered a 17018 sensor as well and I confirmed that the 30-2001 sensor and the 17018 are the same. I installed the 17018 sensor and everything is back to normal.


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