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Old 02-12-2012, 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Reverant
It either blew up and killed him or he died from excitement because it actually started.
I wish. Its currently making popping noses but wont cough into life
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Old 02-12-2012, 04:44 PM
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too much fuel, or your cam timing is off.
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STARTED! Immediate belt squeal then stalled. I think it's clearing out the fuel I probably accumulated?
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Starts after much cranking. idles at like 500rpm or less then dies
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Old 02-12-2012, 05:02 PM
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What's your current ambient temperature? You probably need to open up the idle valve more when cranking (Startup/idle -> PWM idle cranking duty) and then add some more enrichment in the ASE percentage table.
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It's about 50*F in my garage. Side note. I told my buddies I got it to start. Of course they bring this over...

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Old 02-12-2012, 05:16 PM
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I don't know if that photo worked, here's the link http://www.flickr.com/photos/7649989...in/photostream
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Old 02-12-2012, 05:21 PM
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Gtfo! What kind of friends do you have?
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If you can start it, can you hold your foot on the throttle until it warms up? See if that makes it idle better when the engine warms up...
I'm not talking flat to the floor, I'm talking like 1,500 rpm's.
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Big noob cant get car started with MS2-lc-1new.jpg
Your LC-1 wiring doesn't need to be exactly like this, but just use this as a reference that 1 wire goes to the gauge and a different wire goes to the MS. They need to be set differently as pictured. You need to go into your Innovate software and connect your laptop to only the LC1. In there you can change the outputs of the LC1. Change them to what the pictured wires are set at, and then go into tuner studio (after connecting to MS), and make sure the wideband input is the same as what you set the one going to MS as.
Ex: If you set the LC1 output to MS for 0-5V 10-20:1, then in tuner studio it should be also set for 0-5v 10-20:1. Then both the MS and the LC1 gauge will read the same.
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Hahaha. One excessively wealthy one. I'll have to post pics later of the rest of his cars. I have my cranking duty at 64.8 60.2 then 44.9 42.2. Is that ok? also increased ASE percentage to 50 at the coldest then 49 48 45 etc downward. Sound alright? I will try to keep the revs up
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The car dies if I go anywhere near the throttle
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Originally Posted by gorillazfan1023
The car dies if I go anywhere near the throttle
With the car off, make sure your TPS is calibrated correctly. If so, then "it dies if you hit the throttle" might be too much fuel. Does it idle long enough to get an AFR reading?
Do you know how to post a screen shot of your fuel table?
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TPS is calibrated correctly. I will try and post a screen shot. I just got my LC-1 connected and am changing the settings now. Could that have effected it?
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Originally Posted by gorillazfan1023
Could that have effected it?
I would say no, but once it's set correctly you'll be able to properly tune/ make adjustments.
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Originally Posted by thirdgen
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Ex: If you set the LC1 output to MS for 0-5V 10-20:1, then in tuner studio it should be also set for 0-5v 10-20:1. Then both the MS and the LC1 gauge will read the same.
Ok I'm confused now. 0-5v 10-20:1...So at 0volts what lamba should I be at?
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Nevermind....google is my friend
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If you got the LC1 settings, then that's like the hardest part. My laptop was being a Dick when I tried to connect it to my LC1. That was like 3 years ago though.
I'm glad to see you're making progress and that your car is soon ready to hit the street!
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Yeah connecting was pain. I am an idiot. So I get it setup and turn the key to on and there CEL odd going crazy. Then I remember I forgot to refill my coolant so it thinks it's really hot. I can't wait to hit the street either. My exhaust sounds awesome
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Nice job getting it started.

CEL works on newer cars when the ECU has been replaced with MS?
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