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Old 11-26-2007, 04:39 PM
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You something set wrong in your megatune ini file.
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Old 11-26-2007, 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Arkmage
I don't want hints.. I want solutions... I'm tool slow to figure out hints.
Then I'm sorry you took the MS route.

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Originally Posted by Reverant
Then I'm sorry you took the MS route.

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Damn, that was a bit harsh. I've been screwing with this thing for days and haven't found the problem... I've gotten frustrated and I'm not really thinking straight anymore. I asked for help here because I needed a new perspective.

If you don't think I'm MS worthy, then I guess I'm not
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Old 11-26-2007, 05:11 PM
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Have you tried a different sensor setting in the configurator to see if that smoothes it out? Try the LC1 setting just to try it out.
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Per the setting.ini definitions: LC-1 is 0-5V = .5 - 1.5 Lambda = 7.35 - 22.05 AFR. (Line #57 under lambda sensor).

The JAW is programmed with the LC1 default setting, and the MS is set for LC1 input. Is the MS definition for the LC1 incorrect? If the LC1 is suppose to be 0-5V = 10-20 AFR then I need the change the MS to use Innovate 0-5V linear which matches the 10-20 AFR.

Or are you guys saying I need to change this to 0=10 and 5 =20 somewhere else?

*edit* and now I understand Reverent's post... I have it set to 7-22 on both sides though, not just the MS.
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Old 11-26-2007, 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by cjernigan
Have you tried a different sensor setting in the configurator to see if that smoothes it out? Try the LC1 setting just to try it out.
It's currently set as LC1, I'll change it on the drive home from work to the 0-5V innovate linear to see what happens. It will read off a bit, but right now it's useless so I might as well try.
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dont use LC1 default, use LC1 0-5V linear.
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Originally Posted by Arkmage
It's currently set as LC1, I'll change it on the drive home from work to the 0-5V innovate linear to see what happens. It will read off a bit, but right now it's useless so I might as well try.
That would be what i would try. ^^ GL
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Old 11-26-2007, 08:27 PM
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still poopy... Any other ideas?
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That thumbnail is too small to see anything.
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Old 11-27-2007, 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Reverant
That thumbnail is too small to see anything.
sorry... not sure why it saved the image so small, I just assumed it was the normal size... I'll fix it during lunch.
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Old 11-27-2007, 04:14 PM
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The folks on MSefi are telling me that this is likely due to a really poorly setup VE table. They claim that I need to tune more to clean this up, but I'm not totally convinced yet. I was also told this might be an exhaust leak, but I have heard nothing that sounds like an exhaust leak so I'm skeptical of that offering as well. Opinions on these possibilities?

*edit* The server is resizing these images... they are full size on my computer..
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hmm next time try photo bucket. It does look like a crappy tune but maybe they are on to something on the exhaust leak It would make AF tunning damn near impossible if you had a pinhole somewhere. Abit of time looking the pipes over etc might be well spent. And could you post up a VE table so we can see how lumpy you are?
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MSQ plus the actual datalog in a zip please.

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Originally Posted by Reverant
MSQ plus the actual datalog in a zip please.

Jim

haha, just about to post this as well.
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Old 11-27-2007, 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Reverant
MSQ plus the actual datalog in a zip please.

Jim
Here ya go... the map is mostly cjernigan's. I changed the req fuel and leaned out idle (still rich judging by the smell and rough O2 output). I also changed a few other settings to suite my setup better.
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I fear I will need to put on my flame suit for this, but try a 10% shift rich on your entire fuel table. Tools/Table Transform select shift put 10 in the box, enter. use a - to go back the other way.

Its an easy try, you look lean to me. I had a similar problem with my Miata and it may have been 20% for mine to smooth out to the point I could actually tune the fuel table correctly. I am NA but the principal still applies.

Give it a try its easy to go back.

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Originally Posted by Alta_Racer
I fear I will need to put on my flame suit for this, but try a 10% shift rich on your entire fuel table. Tools/Table Transform select shift put 10 in the box, enter. use a - to go back the other way.

Its an easy try, you look lean to me. I had a similar problem with my Miata and it may have been 20% for mine to smooth out to the point I could actually tune the fuel table correctly. I am NA but the principal still applies.

Give it a try its easy to go back.

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I'll try anything... i'll give this a shot tomorrow.
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Old 11-28-2007, 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Arkmage
I'll try anything... i'll give this a shot tomorrow.
that didn't really help at all... Anyone take a look at my MSQ? Most recent help from MS efi is my O2 authority setting. I'm going to change it tonight and see what happens. I think that could very well be it.
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Did you ever figure this out?
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