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MookyMiata 10-01-2019 11:34 AM

break up with boost
 
Im having an issue aroubnf 5600-6000 rpm with which i beleive it is a misfire or pre detination, WOT AFR is 9.6-10.2. Ive tried to take timing/ put timing in on my spark map but nothing is helping. any ideas?

vitamin j 10-01-2019 02:06 PM

Spark blow-out. Lower your spark gap or get COPs.

SpartanSV 10-01-2019 02:28 PM


Originally Posted by MookyMiata (Post 1550789)
Im having an issue aroubnf 5600-6000 rpm with which i beleive it is a misfire or pre detination, WOT AFR is 9.6-10.2. Ive tried to take timing/ put timing in on my spark map but nothing is helping. any ideas?

We can't possibly answer you definitively without a log.

matrussell122 10-01-2019 02:31 PM

The only reasonable answer is to K-Swap it.

Full_Tilt_Boogie 10-01-2019 02:43 PM


Originally Posted by MookyMiata (Post 1550789)
pre detination

Pre detination for sure. If youre not careful youre going to blow the welds on your intake manifold.

MookyMiata 10-01-2019 03:20 PM

Im gapped at .030 plug: BRK7E
i have LS coils just waiting to be installed, but wanted to get this figured out first.



ANy idea on how to check for Pre-Detination? Still getting the hang of Tuner studio, seemed to not break up as bad when it was richer.

thanks

ryansmoneypit 10-01-2019 03:22 PM

its way too rich for 6 psi. get that thing in the 12 zone

MookyMiata 10-01-2019 03:25 PM


Originally Posted by ryansmoneypit (Post 1550819)
its way too rich for 6 psi. get that thing in the 12 zone


I will lean it out tonight when i get home.

concealer404 10-01-2019 03:41 PM


Originally Posted by ryansmoneypit (Post 1550819)
its way too rich for 6 psi. get that thing in the 12 zone

It could very well be showing rich due to misfire.

Full_Tilt_Boogie 10-01-2019 03:43 PM


Originally Posted by concealer404 (Post 1550822)
It could very well be showing rich due to misfire.

Misfire usually reads very lean in my experience

concealer404 10-01-2019 03:50 PM

Herp. Yeah i brain farted.

WigglingWaffles 10-01-2019 04:41 PM

I agree with above. Try leaning it out a bit. 10s is nuts for such low boost. I'm probably wrong, but I aim for 12.5 afr up to 5psi, then 11.5 beyond that.
If that doesn't solve or help the problem, then your ignition system might be worth looking into

ryansmoneypit 10-01-2019 05:19 PM

10's, hell he said he was in the 9's !

HowPrayGame 10-01-2019 06:14 PM


Originally Posted by Full_Tilt_Boogie (Post 1550810)
Pre detination for sure. If youre not careful youre going to blow the welds on your intake manifold.


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patsmx5 10-01-2019 06:27 PM


Originally Posted by MookyMiata (Post 1550817)
Im gapped at .030 plug: BRK7E
i have LS coils just waiting to be installed, but wanted to get this figured out first.



ANy idea on how to check for Pre-Detination? Still getting the hang of Tuner studio, seemed to not break up as bad when it was richer.

thanks

Less gap.

Arca_ex 10-02-2019 06:26 AM

I thought this was a clever thread title for another K swap build. Thoroughly disappointed now.

MookyMiata 10-04-2019 03:01 AM


Originally Posted by patsmx5 (Post 1550841)
Less gap.

I gapped at .026 less break up, is there anyone willing to check my tune out? And help me

sixshooter 10-04-2019 06:08 AM

Stock coils are weak. Install the better coils and set the dwell and it will improve significantly. No amount of tuning is going to help if your coils aren't strong enough to fire the mixture. This is part of the reason we can't help you right now. The other part is you have not posted a tune and a log, but those are useless if you are experiencing spark blowout.

ryansmoneypit 10-04-2019 09:03 AM

have you fixed your 9s and 10s in AFR? no spark will ignite that mixture.

I have LS coils and 9s still breaks up but with really scary explosions.

MookyMiata 10-04-2019 09:54 AM

Here is what ive changed last night, WOT i see 11-11.6, plugs gapped to .026. I have also been told to do this
''Load the base map for the 94-97 . Check the KPA, see if it goes above 200kpa. Really as long as it goes above 105, it's a boost map.
You can also use the Tuner map, it's a bit more aggressive.
Dont worry about the year car or model MS, JUST USE THE IGNITION MAP. not the whole tune. You might have to fill in some holes on the map, but use the interpolation key, its it's easy. I say that because the MS2 might have less cells to fill per graph, than ms3.'
Any idea if i should give this a shot, i have been making changed to my tune from what everyone has been metioning to do/try, and it is getting alot better!


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