castillejos2000

Quick question? which MS right for me and what do i need to complete the set up, for this car 1.6 92 miata,swap to 1.6 1990 engine,greedy turbo kit,interccoler,greddy boostcontroller,greddy guage,egt guage,fuel press guage,aem wide band and right now is set up for emange blue w/ auto tune,i think im ready for ms,and what my advantage w/ ms vs emanage blue, and is ms will eliminate my air flow meter?thanks.


mark.

magnamx-5

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yes airflow meter, rev limit and run as big an injector as you like. A MS1 should be the best option for you.

castillejos2000

ms1 is that all i need ?whats mean MS-I PCBv2.2 and MS-I PCBv3.0 whats there diff? and whats this means Hall Sensor and MSNS firmware is this aplicable to my set up?

FoundSoul

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I'd recommend the MS-I PCBv3.0 with MSnS-E firmware version 029v or later. Here's an article with the major details covered as to how to set it up--

http://www.diyautotune.com/tech_arti...azda_miata.htm

Let us know if there's anything else we can do to assist-- websales@diyautotune.com is the best way to get us but we do watch these forums too...

castillejos2000

MS-I PCBv3.0 with MSnS-E firmware version 029v is this stand alone or piggy back,thanks

cjernigan

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You can wire it up standalone or parallel. Parallel is easier to deal with as you can leave certain things up to the stock ECU like the alternator, A/C, and other things like that.

FoundSoul

iTrader: (5)

What's your timeframe for needing the MS? We might have a really slick solution for you soon... the cost will be a bit higher of course, but did I mention REALLY slick?

castillejos2000

no rush i got till may for autocross day,so easy way is parallel thats means i stil leave my stock ecu,my main thing is to eliminate the afm,so if i buy this ms1 it diagram or wiring direction to eliminate afm?

FoundSoul

iTrader: (5)

The MS doesn't need the AFM at all-- the stock AFM on the Miata also houses the stock IAT sensor though, so when you remove it you'll need to fit another IAT sensor, but that's not a big deal and is pretty standard stuff for any MS install... check out www.megamanual.com for a ton of info you can't live without when taking on an MS project-- it's a great read even if you weren't really...

neogenesis2004

iTrader: (12)

It uses rpm and map in its ign and fuel maps. So assuming you have it controlling ign and fuel you can just go ahead and yank out the afm. There are no "special" options or anything you need to setup.

castillejos2000

do i need knock sensor for this project and air sensor,how difficult ms vs. em blue,to install.do they have a base map to start?i dont have power stering and ac.and do this ms has a connector for aem wideband or 0.5 volt

magnamx-5

iTrader: (7)

the MS has a WB o2 in you just need to calibrate the specific wideband to the MS be it AEM or LC1 Cejernigan is running a AEM and should be able to give you some insight on this. No knock sensor needed. building the baord and modding the ecu is pretty involved but the wiring of the finishe dproduct is rather simple.

castillejos2000

im trying ordering trhu protocar but was asking me if standard or with nspark,what else do i need to operate this ms,do i need a cable to computer for tuning or comes with it,and hall or vr sensor??

magnamx-5

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IT should read the CAS just fine a cord comes with the kit i believe if nothing else radio shack sells them as well. Also there is a USB upgrade and even a bluetooth wireless feature. you might need to downlaod a driver to recognize the MS but this is rather simple as well

castillejos2000

cas means standard ?

kotomile

iTrader: (24)

cas = crank angle sensor.

magnamx-5

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IM helping IM helping IM helping

cjernigan

iTrader: (13)

Order through DIYautotune. Tell them to include the spark mod resistors, they'll give them for free. You'll also want to order the PWM IAC mod kit as well, so that you can control idle. You need to decide if you want to go USB or DB9, the USB requires an adapter, DB9 is simple and they sell cables cheaper than most places so get it with your kit when you order. Unless you plan to use the stock IAT (if you even have one) then you need to order a GM IAT from them as well because you'll need it. Other than that I would suggest buying their 2' wiring bundle for making your wiring harness unless you plan to build some different style harness than what most of us use.

castillejos2000

which reliable online store can i get ms. diy or protocar,diy price is $330 protocar is $280 whats there difference,im ready to order and squirtin sweat nervous to get this.thanks for all the help,you guys are cool.

cjernigan

iTrader: (13)

Do what you like but you need all the things I told you to get in order for it to work in your miata.
DIYautotune has done great for all of us.