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vitorjorge 03-26-2017 04:20 PM

DIYPNP Boost Solenoid mess with CAS signal
 
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Hello,

when i connect the boost solenoid, the car makes random resets. The rpm drops and come back again.

Using composite logger i realised that connecting solenoid to 12V the CAS signal get all wired as you can see on video


2 logs, with and without 12 volts on boost solenoid


Any suggestions???

acedeuce802 03-26-2017 06:56 PM

Where are you pulling 12v from?

vitorjorge 03-26-2017 08:10 PM


Originally Posted by acedeuce802 (Post 1401434)
Where are you pulling 12v from?

i tried to use the blue plug for timing light and 12v from MAF connector. both have the same problem

JasonC SBB 03-26-2017 08:39 PM

Do you keep signal grounds (such as CAS) separate from power ground?

Braineack 03-27-2017 07:07 AM

was the flyback diode install properly on the boost control circuit? Do you follow the writeup when you assembled and ground the (4) wires 4A-D correctly?

vitorjorge 03-27-2017 01:13 PM

The installation was very straight forward using the instructions.

I think that i don't use separated grounds, but this is how i connected the wiring.

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...1379baf2b0.jpg
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...8378dd67cb.jpg

Braineack 03-27-2017 01:47 PM

id honestly switch it to this:
SG 4A
SG 3O
GND 4C
GND 4D



3O is a sensor ground, all the 96-97 sensors use that (both o2, cam, crank, maf, egr, etc) to ground.

4A is labeled as blk/ lt grn, which traditionally is a sensor ground, but the docs shows it goes directly to ground at the engine.

vitorjorge 03-27-2017 01:55 PM


Originally Posted by JasonC SBB (Post 1401463)
Do you keep signal grounds (such as CAS) separate from power ground?


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 1401515)
was the flyback diode install properly on the boost control circuit? Do you follow the writeup when you assembled and ground the (4) wires 4A-D correctly?


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 1401609)
id honestly switch it to this:
SG 4A
SG 3O
GND 4C
GND 4D

Tanks i'm going to try it, and give feedback

vitorjorge 03-27-2017 03:12 PM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 1401609)
id honestly switch it to this:
SG 4A
SG 3O
GND 4C
GND 4D



3O is a sensor ground, all the 96-97 sensors use that (both o2, cam, crank, maf, egr, etc) to ground.

4A is labeled as blk/ lt grn, which traditionally is a sensor ground, but the docs shows it goes directly to ground at the engine.

No luck. Just change the ground but it is the same behavior...

JasonC SBB 03-27-2017 04:11 PM


Originally Posted by vitorjorge (Post 1401602)

Is that the solenoid flyback diode?

Are you running a separate wire from the ECU to the solenoid?
Or is it a wire that's running alongside the CAS wire in the same loom?

vitorjorge 03-27-2017 04:39 PM

I'm running a separate wire from the ECU to the solenoid

At the moment i'm without solenoid flyback diode, but i alredy tried.

JasonC SBB 03-29-2017 11:27 AM

It's better to have the flyback diode whether or not you have CAS issues.

vitorjorge 03-29-2017 02:46 PM


Originally Posted by JasonC SBB (Post 1402090)
It's better to have the flyback diode whether or not you have CAS issues.

Tanks for the help,

i'll give a try
Just to be sure the flyback diode is something like this? (sorry the image)
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...90f52e5f37.jpg

Braineack 03-29-2017 03:01 PM

yeah, which is how it is within the DIYPNP.


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