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huesmann 09-12-2015 04:36 PM

DIYPNP Won't Stay Running
 
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DIYPNP built by Braineack. 1995 N/A Miata, stock FP, stock injectors. GM AIT. Fixed timing set in TS to 10º.

Can get it started, but it idles rough for a few seconds and dies. I can give it some gas, and it'll run, but as soon as I let off the gas it dies. Not sure if this log works, attached.

Help?

deezums 09-12-2015 05:00 PM

Where is your wideband?

huesmann 09-12-2015 05:01 PM

No wideband. I thought I'd set TS to use narrowband.

deezums 09-12-2015 05:06 PM

So you use a narrowband and absolutely no tuning, obviously?

Wow, wonder why it don't work.

huesmann 09-12-2015 05:08 PM

Yes, stock O2 sensor. And yes, obviously no tuning, since I can't even get it to stay running. Thank you for your help.

deezums 09-12-2015 05:18 PM

If you had a wideband you could tell what was happening while the thing was running then you could adjust it after it died, tuning.

You will never get it right without a wideband, you should go back to stock till you can afford to do it right.

huesmann 09-12-2015 05:32 PM

So basically you're saying you can't run a MS without a wideband?

deezums 09-12-2015 05:44 PM

Does that really need to be said? Is it not obvious already?

huesmann 09-12-2015 06:03 PM

Guess so. Thanks again for being so helpful.

Braineack 09-12-2015 08:49 PM

what happens if you increase your req_fuel to say 15?

huesmann 09-12-2015 09:09 PM

It idled very roughly once, then wouldn't idle again.

Braineack 09-12-2015 09:28 PM

the PW on those logs is really low. I wouldn't expect it to idle lower than 1.6ms or so, im seeing it dropping down to .9 in that log.


under fuel settings and injector dead time. can you put the deadtime value from .850 to 1.2ms.

huesmann 09-12-2015 10:01 PM

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Pretty much same result. Rough idle for a while around 400 rpm, then won't idle at all. Not sure if attached log helps.

Barton 09-12-2015 10:20 PM

Is your MAP sensor calibrated correctly? You shouldn't be seeing over 100kPa. Also there's no real point in using the ECU until you get a wideband or you're not going to be able to tune it.

huesmann 09-12-2015 10:55 PM

How does one calibrate the MAP sensor?

Braineack 09-13-2015 08:46 AM

looking at the log, what it really seems like is that the idle valve isn't doing anything. it's pegging open to its fullest but your idle speed is unaffected. But even still, your min. idle speed should be like 600-700rpm, not 200-300.

it IS really hard to see what's going on with fuel without a wideband.

huesmann 09-13-2015 10:08 AM

Have put back to stock til I have time to route WB wiring.

huesmann 09-14-2015 06:34 PM


Originally Posted by huesmann (Post 1265851)
How does one calibrate the MAP sensor?

So how you you calibrate the MAP sensor?

I assume nothing further needs to be done for the AIT other than Tools>Calibrate Thermistor Tables>Air Temperature Sensor>GM?

Is there anything different for MAP? Tools>Calibrate MAP/Baro>??which selection?? Maybe that's my problem, incorrect MAP selection? :dunno:

Braineack 09-14-2015 06:55 PM

should be set to the MPX4250, but opening your project here, it might have be set to the 3bar for some odd reason...

huesmann 09-16-2015 07:11 PM

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OK, still no WB installed (waiting on O2 sensor socket/wrench), but with AFR and EGO Control set to Narrowband in TunerStudio, setting Calibrate MAP/Baro to 4250 gets it to idle, albeit roughly. I guess that's progress?


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