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Itty 12-04-2015 12:11 PM

I know what you mean, I'm just busting your balls. E100 isn't 100% ethanol.

aidandj 12-04-2015 12:11 PM

Its 100% not gasoline. Which is all I care about.

shuiend 12-04-2015 12:31 PM


Originally Posted by aidandj (Post 1289157)
Its 100% not gasoline. Which is all I care about.

It is 100% of ALLOFIT!!!!

aidandj 12-04-2015 12:32 PM

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patsmx5 12-04-2015 01:02 PM


Originally Posted by shuiend (Post 1289163)
... ALLOFIT!!!!

Now we're talking! :party:

I might install a flex fuel one day, we'll see. The big problem for me is I can't run on pure gasoline at 28 PSI without detonation, and the amount of timing I have to pull to keep it from detonating is unacceptable from an EGT standpoint. So all I could really use it for is to compensate for different E85 blends, but so far in TX, I haven't noticed any change so far. E70 is the minimum here, so maybe it's not enough difference to notice.

aidandj 12-04-2015 01:13 PM


Originally Posted by patsmx5 (Post 1289180)
Now we're talking! :party:

I might install a flex fuel one day, we'll see. The big problem for me is I can't run on pure gasoline at 28 PSI without detonation, and the amount of timing I have to pull to keep it from detonating is unacceptable from an EGT standpoint. So all I could really use it for is to compensate for different E85 blends, but so far in TX, I haven't noticed any change so far. E70 is the minimum here, so maybe it's not enough difference to notice.

coldside wastegate with EBC. Blend boost by ethanol percentage.

patsmx5 12-04-2015 02:28 PM


Originally Posted by aidandj (Post 1289191)
coldside wastegate with EBC. Blend boost by ethanol percentage.

Sounds dumb, but probably the only legit way to actually make it driveable in boost on pump gas. So I guess, not dumb? :idea:

aidandj 12-04-2015 02:30 PM

I wasn't really kidding. Ive seen emilio mention it before, and seen it done in a few random places online. And its actually quite simple, and mechanical.

patsmx5 12-04-2015 02:42 PM

Funny part is the "hardware" to do this is already on the car and being used as a bypass valve to cool the SC when not in boost.

But I'll probably never do this, just keep it on E85.

aidandj 12-04-2015 02:43 PM

For some reason the wastegate is supposed to be as close to the intake as possible. Even on the actual intake mani if possible.

2manyhobyz 12-05-2015 12:23 AM

Subbed for more info. I just installed one of these also.
I bought this tester:
One Tester to Check Your E85 and Gasoline Fuel for Ethanol Levels | eBay
You guys probably have seen this stuff already, but here it is anyway.
Megasquirt Support Forum (MSEXTRA) ? Set up Continental Flex Fuel Sensor 13577394 (View topic)
and
Flex Fuel with MegaSquirt

aidandj 12-05-2015 12:29 AM

Don't use the megamanual. It's not for the msextra codebase.

2manyhobyz 12-05-2015 12:33 AM


Originally Posted by aidandj (Post 1289397)
Don't use the megamanual. It's not for the msextra codebase.

My bad, as usual I know just enough to be dangerous.

aidandj 12-05-2015 12:39 AM

Other link is good :bigtu:

I have another flex fuel thread with links to Miata maps with flex blending.

btabor 01-31-2016 09:20 PM

I don't have a flex fuel gauge yet and I'm about to dyno tune my car. I got a fuel sample test kit to know how much ethanol my "e85" has. If it's low on ethanol, let's say 75% and I tune for that, my understanding is that it will be safer in the summer when I get true e85. Yes, I may not extract it's full potential but it should be safe, right?

Ted75zcar 08-11-2016 10:41 PM

Thread from the dead, but potentially relevant

I installed the Continental long tube sensor part number 13577394 and also had readings of ~35% on E10. I bumped around the google, and it sounds like several people have gotten very similar readings from this sensor out of the box. We have measured ~75Hz with air, ~85Hz on what may be E10 pump gas, and around 150Hz on whatever blend our e85 actually is. I took it a step further and ran water through it, 190Hz.

It seems getting one that provides the typical 50-150Hz range is a bit hit and miss. I will be putting some E0 through this one sometime here soon, as well as possibly some 70% ethanol water.

I will also be ordering another sensor. This one was sold as new Continental Branded, but it came from China, so I bet it is counterfeit.

willerdcraft 08-12-2016 06:59 PM

Solved
 
Thanks guys for all your input i replaced my flex fuel sensor with another one and it reads correctly. enjoying my summer with a bit of corn


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