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Ben 05-29-2007 05:07 PM

intermittent miss
 
Got a miss going on. It's intermittent. When the miss occurs, my wb reads full lean. I'd normally think secondary ignition, however when this miss occurs, the tach will drop ~500 rpm for an instant concurrently with the miss. It typically occurs while cruising between indicated 3k-3.4k rpm (but that may be because that's where I cruise at around town). But once I noticed it happening while decelerating in gear with my foot off the gas.

What would cause an ignition miss AND a simultaneous drop in RPM reading on the tach? CAS related? I do have a butt connection where the MSD box used to intercept the signal.

I have extra plugs & wires. Could throw them in to see what happens, but I'm not betting on secondary ignition because of the tach phenomenon.

FoundSoul 05-29-2007 05:47 PM


Originally Posted by Ben (Post 118437)
Got a miss going on. It's intermittent. When the miss occurs, my wb reads full lean. I'd normally think secondary ignition, however when this miss occurs, the tach will drop ~500 rpm for an instant concurrently with the miss. It typically occurs while cruising between indicated 3k-3.4k rpm (but that may be because that's where I cruise at around town). But once I noticed it happening while decelerating in gear with my foot off the gas.

What would cause an ignition miss AND a simultaneous drop in RPM reading on the tach? CAS related? I do have a butt connection where the MSD box used to intercept the signal.

I have extra plugs & wires. Could throw them in to see what happens, but I'm not betting on secondary ignition because of the tach phenomenon.

Can you see anything on a datalog? If the CAS is dropping out due to those two butt connectors in there giving out then we might be able to see it there...

Is it rare, or somewhat consistent?

Ben 05-29-2007 06:05 PM

It started as occasional, but seems to be getting more frequent. I see these little spikes of 0 injector activity in my datalog. I assume it's related.

http://img260.imageshack.us/img260/2840/missak3.png

richyvrlimited 05-29-2007 06:12 PM

My money is on bad earths

FoundSoul 05-29-2007 06:35 PM

It's the factory harness so that normally shouldn't be a problem... though I think the grounds were vampire tapped for the wideband which can damage them.

Ben-- email me your full datalogs so I can take a closer look.

Lex 05-29-2007 06:53 PM

I second that, either a poor ground or poor power

Ben 05-29-2007 07:01 PM

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datalog for anyone else interested.

Ben 06-02-2007 11:46 PM

problem seems to be cured by swapping in a different ignitor.

magnamx-5 06-03-2007 12:13 AM

i had my money on ignitor as well it sends out RPM signal maybe your dwell time is cooking it slowly and then it starts to miss. :dunno: just a theory

richyvrlimited 06-03-2007 02:19 PM


Originally Posted by Ben (Post 119809)
problem seems to be cured by swapping in a different ignitor.

Thinking about it I have the same issue, and I assumed it was bad leads (a different set solved it for a time).

Think I'll try swopping the coils for a spare set I have and see what happens.


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