Long awaited 99-00 MSPNP
So i just read on here sometime last week that DIY Autotune is in the Developmental stage for the 99-00 MSPNP. This is like the best miata news I've heard in months. Since I don't own an NA, let alone a MSPNP, I have a few questions on what this is going to be equipped with.
So let me get this straight. This is a Megasquirt inside a stock ECU sized case. 1) I remove my stock ECU, and the MSPNP bolts right up, and plugs right in? 2) I am currently running MS-1 in parallel with a CAS, so I could use my currrent CAS signal wires that go through the firewall, but since I will no longer use my CAS, I can use these wires for EBC? 3) I will be able to remove my stock O2 sensor and use only the LC-1? 4) I can eliminate my MAF? 5) Do I need to wire anything up for launch control, or is this part of the factory harness? 6) This will be made to work with ALL the stock 99-00 sensors? And the last and final question: What is the estimated time the MSPNP for 99-00 could be expected to be mass produced? My birthday is September 5th, and this could very well be one of the best birthday presents I ever bought myself! This would also be a great group buy (hint, hint). |
Originally Posted by thirdgen
(Post 407315)
3) I will be able to remove my stock O2 sensor and use only the LC-1?
Just go to the DIY website and look at the features list of MSII. It should do everything (at least) that the MSII does now. It would only be a PnP if you could simply unplug the current ECU and plug in the MS. Things like working with the stock sensors and MAF delete go without saying. I don't know what you had to re-wire with the CAS to get your MS1 to work, but you'd probably need to convert the harness back to stock if you hacked it somehow. Launch control is a software function I believe... no need to wire anything if you've already got EBC. There are several threads of people already using the launch control software. I ran a standalone MS for about 2 years and had great luck. The only thing it didn't do 100% to my linking was the EBC. The open-loop stuff was too unpredictable and succeptible to atmospheric naughtiness. What it needs are tables with enough fidelity for good fuel and spark (it already has), onboard wideband, dual-map closed-loop EBC, plenty of inputs and outputs, USB connectivity, and basic improvements in performance that I'm sure DIY has been getting feedback on in large quantities. Things like launch control and boost-per-gear functions do not interest me, but some people who can't drive a stick very well like that shit. In any case, I can't wait. |
Originally Posted by thirdgen
(Post 407315)
I have a few questions on what this is going to be equipped with.
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Originally Posted by samnavy
(Post 407383)
For my money, ONBOARD WIDEBAND is worth whatever the cost.
And c'mon- it takes four wires to hook up an LC-1. It's not like it's a major undertaking. |
Also, as often as people seem to have trouble with their widebands, would you really want the controller built into the ECU?
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Originally Posted by Joe Perez
(Post 407576)
Unless they are going to license Innovate's design for the LC-1
Jim |
Originally Posted by thirdgen
(Post 407315)
1) I remove my stock ECU, and the MSPNP bolts right up, and plugs right in?
2) I am currently running MS-1 in parallel with a CAS, so I could use my currrent CAS signal wires that go through the firewall, but since I will no longer use my CAS, I can use these wires for EBC? 3) I will be able to remove my stock O2 sensor and use only the LC-1? 4) I can eliminate my MAF? 5) Do I need to wire anything up for launch control, or is this part of the factory harness? 6) This will be made to work with ALL the stock 99-00 sensors? And the last and final question: What is the estimated time the MSPNP for 99-00 could be expected to be mass produced? |
Will it work for my 04 MSM considering they are basically the same to the 99-00? Id be more than happy to toss the crap ecu of the MSM
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Originally Posted by leatherface24
(Post 408131)
Will it work for my 04 MSM considering they are basically the same to the 99-00? Id be more than happy to toss the crap ecu of the MSM
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Originally Posted by leatherface24
(Post 408131)
Will it work for my 04 MSM considering they are basically the same to the 99-00? Id be more than happy to toss the crap ecu of the MSM
From the standpoint of personal speculation, I expect that the MSM constitutes too small of a market to merit an MSPnP of its own. If one were made for the general '03-'05 cars it would work on the MSM as well, but those cars won't likely be getting a PnP until VVT control is worked out. Sorry, Hustler. Looks like your sister is going to continue withholding sexual favors for the time being. |
Originally Posted by leatherface24
(Post 408131)
Will it work for my 04 MSM considering they are basically the same to the 99-00? Id be more than happy to toss the crap ecu of the MSM
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Does this mean it will be using the oem iat sensor?
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Originally Posted by f_devocht
(Post 408478)
Does this mean it will be using the oem iat sensor?
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Originally Posted by leatherface24
(Post 408131)
Will it work for my 04 MSM considering they are basically the same to the 99-00? Id be more than happy to toss the crap ecu of the MSM
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really.......care to comment on difficulty of install / tuning / support?
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Im goingto have Joe build me one if hes up to it still but itll be a while now as money is scarce
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