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reddroptop 08-10-2007 03:56 PM

Megasquirt Datalog: Take a Look.
 
Info:

1994 Miata base, no a/c, no p/s, stock engine wise besides a ricer filter on a DIY intake.

JAW DIY Wideband with bosch sensor and display.

Custom board based on the V2.2 PCB with a Megasquirt-I processor running ms&s-e 0.29v

Running DIYautotunes .msq just edited for my dwell and spark invert settings.

GM AIT, stock mazda CLT sensor, has NOT been easythermed.

The problems:

Cold starts are still an issue, rpm is too low, car wants to die moving at first.

Car goes PIG rich sometimes on letting off the gas, sometimes when idling. Map was just loaded now, quick drive, and posting the .msq and logfile.

The Wideband takes a few min to start reading, so ignore the perfect 14.7 afr at the beginning.

The good:

At WOT the car "feels" faster, and I am pretty sure it is.

Once it is warmed up idles GREAT, compared to before with my hacked maps.





Any info on what to change would be appreciated.

Was planning on going to the strip tommorow, would like to, but unless I can fix these issues, I am unsure of going.

Thanks in advance.


It seems I can't post attachments for some reason,

Quick free file hosting found on google:

The log:
http://www.filefactory.com/file/d1adaf/

The MSQ:
http://www.filefactory.com/file/5fbaa5/

Arkmage 08-10-2007 05:29 PM

to fix the overly rich on lift condition I think you need to change your over-run settings. that's what determines how long after releasing the throttle it continues delivering fuel before cutting it back down. could be wrong here as my car is currently not tuned, still waiting on a WB cause I'm a cheap mofo.

jayc72 08-10-2007 05:32 PM


stock mazda CLT sensor, has NOT been easythermed.
If the MS doesn't think the CLT is up to temp will it not run really rich? If you haven't run easytherm doesn't that mean there has been no conversion setup to translate the stock CLT sensor?

Just a thought.

reddroptop 08-10-2007 05:34 PM

I can't seem to figure out how to get easytherm to work with the version of ms&s-e, I should, but for some reason unable to.

Braineack 08-10-2007 06:01 PM

95% of us are using .29v....

you need to reflash that bitch....

reddroptop 08-10-2007 06:03 PM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 139022)
95% of us are using .29v....

you need to reflash that bitch....

As am I, as I posted above.

Not sure what I am doing wrong with easytherm.

cjernigan 08-10-2007 06:03 PM


Originally Posted by reddroptop (Post 138991)
Info:


Custom board based on the V2.2 PCB with a Megasquirt-I processor running ms&s-e 0.29v

I think he's right there with us.

Check out this thread.
https://www.miataturbo.net/forums/sh...ad.php?t=10181

Braineack 08-10-2007 06:06 PM

try creating the .s19 file with easytherm and reflashing with the MSII downloader.

or I can send the proper .s19 file to flash and the .inc files you need on the CPU.

reddroptop 08-10-2007 06:16 PM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 139030)
try creating the .s19 file with easytherm and reflashing with the MSII downloader.

or I can send the proper .s19 file to flash and the .inc files you need on the CPU.

Thanks for the offer Braineack, All I need to know is if I am supposed to use the V3 defaults, or some other start address for the code. After I know that it should be pretty simple.

I created the .s19 file with easytherm, using the #'s that I needed. I assume the RX7 defaults are the same as the miata ones.

magnamx-5 08-10-2007 06:37 PM

for the hardstart on cold check for Vaccuum leaks and then try jacking up your afterstart enrichments say 4-5% if this does not help then adjust your AIC, with the removal of the AFM, or in your case maf the flow reaching the TB might be abit more than it is used to and you could be leaing your self out, by reseting the AIC etc you can compensate for this. As the AIC is mostly effective on cold start as a sort of choke and when the AC is running the car will idle etc pretty well when it is hot, vs cold. I hope this helps :D

reddroptop 08-10-2007 08:21 PM

Ok, what am I doing wrong?

1. Reflash .29v firmware
2. Load megatune, reflash msq.
3. Open easytherm.
4. Change #'s in easytherm
5. Code version custom
6. hit write .s19 and .inc files
7. select msns-extra.s19
8. hit write to megasquirt
9. Jump bootloader pins and cycle power
10. Code should count up by lines, but it gets to 75 and stops, computer still seems to be doing stuff, wait a while and stops working (the pc)
11. Car will not fire anymore
12. Reflash to .29v and repeat.

Car runs when you skip the easytherm settings, but not as well as it did before I tried easytherm, harder to start.

Braineack 08-10-2007 09:38 PM

gotta try esaytherm like 17 times...it will eventually work....

just click custom and go straight to download and use the mod file you created.

you could try using the MSII downloader and flash the MS with the same mod file.....but it's always taken me a few tries to get easytherm to upload...always freezes on 75 and 125, then finally goes.

shuiend 08-10-2007 10:59 PM

Yah I never got easytherm to work in the first or second time. It always took 3-5 tries. Also remember to unplug your ignitors.

akaryrye 08-11-2007 12:29 AM

One thing I have found useful for a tune is setting your lowest KPA tune to between 17 and 18:1 AFR so that there is a smooth transition on and off of your overrun, it will also help curb an overly rich liftoff throttle. Or so I have found.

akaryrye 08-11-2007 03:49 AM

Ok after a little bit of looking you have a wierd situation where your MAP sensor is reading 100kpa during many of your decelleration events at 0 Throttle position. I find this rather strange, but your Injector dutycycle's and Pulsewidths do not correspond for some reason and maybe this is just something that the PNP does for whatever reason, but it just seems odd.

Further, assuming you have the "JAW diy wideband", you need to open up your MSQ in megatune, go to:
FILE -> Configurator-> MSEXTRA029v -> Settings -> Settings -> Lambda Sensor
Then from this point I am really not sure what you would want to choose (as I do not know the specs of your sensor), but since your MSQ is telling the hardware that you have a narrowband when in fact you do not, It is screwing up your EGO correction which according to your datalog is turned on. (I believe its a 10-20v sensor since it seemed to get me the best results in megalogviewer, but idk)

Hopefully someone else can use this as a springboard to get you closer to a solution, good luck.

reddroptop 08-11-2007 09:54 AM


Originally Posted by akaryrye (Post 139146)
Ok after a little bit of looking you have a wierd situation where your MAP sensor is reading 100kpa during many of your decelleration events at 0 Throttle position. I find this rather strange, but your Injector dutycycle's and Pulsewidths do not correspond for some reason and maybe this is just something that the PNP does for whatever reason, but it just seems odd.

Further, assuming you have the "JAW diy wideband", you need to open up your MSQ in megatune, go to:
FILE -> Configurator-> MSEXTRA029v -> Settings -> Settings -> Lambda Sensor
Then from this point I am really not sure what you would want to choose (as I do not know the specs of your sensor), but since your MSQ is telling the hardware that you have a narrowband when in fact you do not, It is screwing up your EGO correction which according to your datalog is turned on
. (I believe its a 10-20v sensor since it seemed to get me the best results in megalogviewer, but idk)

Hopefully someone else can use this as a springboard to get you closer to a solution, good luck.

In both megatune (under exhaust gas settings ), and the configurator (under LAMBDA_SENSOR) I have it set to LC-1 wideband and I have adjusted the JAW's output settings accordingly, where does it show that I am using a narrowband?

No clue about the 100kpa and 0 TPS. It would explain my pig rich settings at times.

akaryrye 08-11-2007 01:22 PM

my bad about the wideband, I forgot that it has to be set up whenever you download megatune and the MSQ does not transfer the config settings, so when I look at it, I should set it to the LC1 default in megalogviewer then correct?

Anyway, I think you should call DIY and ask about your tps/map thing

akaryrye 08-12-2007 04:51 AM

by the way, this is my first look at the settings that diyautotune.com had loaded onto their plugnplay units and it's very helpful for me to see what they have done, I am even considering loading their spark n fuel maps to give them a shot.

reddroptop 08-12-2007 07:38 AM


Originally Posted by akaryrye (Post 139446)
by the way, this is my first look at the settings that diyautotune.com had loaded onto their plugnplay units and it's very helpful for me to see what they have done, I am even considering loading their spark n fuel maps to give them a shot.

At WOT and cruise the maps are GREAT. Just can't figure out this deaccel issue.

I will probably shoot Jerry an email, he may be interested in my issue with his map even if I am not running one of his MSPNP's.

Matt Cramer 08-15-2007 10:45 AM

Did you get the code loaded successfully? If not, try grabbing our tuning software from this link:

http://www.megasquirtpnp.com/mspnp_downloads.htm

I believe the tuning software package on that link comes with pre-Easythermed S19 files and a batch file to download it.


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