MS2 Tuning Help! Wont idle, hard cold start, no tach, fuel pump runs all time time.
Hey boys and girls. This car has been sitting since about 2012 when I parked it and went back to school. Now I've graduated and want to finish it and drive it before I start working a new job :)
I'm piecing this car together from my 4 cars worth of crap that I collected over years of owning in Miatas. I was in school and havn't looked at it in years. I was an new with MS2 then, I'm full on idiot now. I'm in WAY over my head. Car:
Tune: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0By...ktZMGlfbndFNEE Logs:
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I drove it today. All the same problems. Cold starts like an cold old diesel tractor, fuel pump runs all the time, no tach, wont idle (hard to catch), and need a tune.
I ran VE Analyze Live which made some changes. Start and Warmup then drive to gas station - filled with 91 octane Shell https://drive.google.com/open?id=0By...XhhWDF1RE1SaUU Drive to buddies house down the road: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0By...VdWRXJrdnR5eGM Drive back to shop: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0By...XlJMF9mTE5QRm8 Current tune: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0By...U5uZlhocEZqM3M |
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Nothing? Here is some driving files attached in case google drive makes someone nervous.
Anyone in Sacramento or any shops anyone can recommend if this cant get straightened out here? |
looked at your tune. replied to your pm. haven't looked at logs yet. I'll be back in town next sat
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1. the ignitor usually drives the tach, could be damaged, but then swapping on 94/95 coils could also be to blame.
2. tune. 3. from the read of it, not well. 4. 18psi. |
Hey Guys. Didn't want to start a new thread. I'm back to working on this again. First problem to solve isn't the tach or any "small" stuff. It's the WBO2 and a smog check.
Problem at hand. Bouncy AFRs. If I can get the AFRs/WBO2 under control I think that will solve a lot of the issues I'm having. Attached MSQ and Datalog. You;ll see at idle it seems fine then when I rev the engine it swings AFRs all over the place. I just did a free air calibration with the sensor in the car.. The car has been off for a week or so. The plan to fix it is to remove the WBO2, do a free air, and check out it's config in LogWorks. I have an AEM UEGO standing by to go in if that doesn't work. For today and tomorrow I have access to a 5-gas. Should the WB02 and the 5-gas agree on O2%? Even if the 5-gas is sampling after the cat, and the WBO2 is before the cat? Do you see anything obvious that I should fix? Why is it doing this? It's pretty intermittent. Sometimes it's fine, and sometimes it's not. More often not. Datalog: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1lZA...ew?usp=sharing MSQ https://drive.google.com/file/d/16sm...ew?usp=sharing |
Bah... fixed nothing. Same problem.
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Has VE Live properly hit all the cells? I see some big jumps in your VE table.
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Ok, I see a few things that could be problematic;
- Overrun fuel cut starts @1400 RPM when MAP <28kPa and CLT > 105.8 That means that if you go just a bit beyond idle (>1400 RPM) and then lift (MAP < 28 kPa), then all fuel shuts off and your AFR will go crazy lean. You might want to raise the RPM limit, lower the MAP limit and raise the activation temp for when the engine has warmed up. - EGO Control starts @500 RPM w/ 25% authorization Your EGO control is fighting the CL idle PID loop, there's no telling which one is "winning". You should raise the RPM activation, and (maybe) lower the authorization to 10% or less - if you have to correct by more than that, your VE table needs attention. - Set your Priming PW to all zeroes if you don't want the fuel pump to come on when you turn on the key. Some other things to consider;
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Thanks. I'll look into that when I work on the car again. It will be a month or so before I'm back. I wonder if letting it sit for long periods of time is corrupting things. It wasn't doing this when I parked it a year ago.
I'll look into all you suggested and possibly redo the powers and grounds in a month or so. |
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