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Jeff_Ciesielski 04-06-2009 03:02 AM

Need some help figuring out WOT bucking(logs included)
 
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For some reason, any time I try to go wot, I get a crazy buck/reset that damn near causes me to smash my face on the wheel. In nearly every other situation, the car drives near/better than stock. I took a look at my logs and everything is all over the place where it bucks, which makes it a little difficult to pinpoint exactly where to start looking. Any help would be appreciated.

GrahamC 04-06-2009 08:01 AM

Hi,

I've not looked at the log because I'm at work, but what you're describing sounds like the boost limit cut is intervening. Try and rraise it and see if it goes away. Just be careful with how much boost you're running! :)

paul 04-06-2009 08:53 AM

It does sound like classic overboost cut or spark blowout but I see you aren't boosted. Probably bad grounds.

You said it's when you go WOT but in the log I am looking at you only reach 52% tps. Come to think of it you are 92 so you don't even have vTPS so the fact that that is changing from 8 to 9 to 39 to 52 makes me think even more that you have some wiring issues. Check all your wiring on the harness. Make sure pins on the connecters aren't touching from too much solder.

Braineack 04-06-2009 08:55 AM

You have a lot of resets. You O2 goes completely lean, yet the MS didn't cut fuel or spark. Probably a bad grounding issue. What sorta injectors are you using?

Jeff_Ciesielski 04-06-2009 01:12 PM

Every reset on that log is a time when we went WOT and the car started freaking out. I usually dont get resets just driving around. My injectors are stock, but will be swapped out for 450's when they arrive in the mail. I think im going to go grab my harness out of the car really quick and take a peek.

Jeff_Ciesielski 04-06-2009 02:16 PM

Alright, took a few pics of my harness ( sorry about quality, phone cam ). Picasa Web Albums - Jeffery - harness pictures

I think that I'll try cleaning up my grounds at the block. I've also considered the possibility of a dying cas as the signals in my logs for porta,portb, etc. all look like shit, plus reading Joe's posts makes me a pessamist about NA electronics :)

Braineack 04-06-2009 02:22 PM

harness looks good as far as i can tell. it's possible you have some wires touching other pins, since you have the heatshrink go over two pins in a few places.

also, why 450s on an N/A?

Jeff_Ciesielski 04-06-2009 02:30 PM

I want to get basic street drivability taken care of with the 450s and the 190hp before I install my stuff from begi. This is my daily driver, and even though I have the option of driving the wife's car, she really hates that :). Scientific method, one thing at a time.

TurboRoach 04-06-2009 02:32 PM

I don't know if this is usually a problem for you guys running the MS, but there is a wire at the back of the intake on the 1.6 that caused some nasty noise for the Adaptronic. It would drive fine at low loads but high load you never new what was going to happen. Check here to see.

paul 04-06-2009 02:36 PM


Originally Posted by Jeff_Ciesielski (Post 391877)
I want to get basic street drivability taken care of with the 450s and the 190hp before I install my stuff from begi. This is my daily driver, and even though I have the option of driving the wife's car, she really hates that :). Scientific method, one thing at a time.

Good idea.

Braineack 04-06-2009 02:47 PM


Originally Posted by TurboRoach (Post 391878)
I don't know if this is usually a problem for you guys running the MS, but there is a wire at the back of the intake on the 1.6 that caused some nasty noise for the Adaptronic. It would drive fine at low loads but high load you never new what was going to happen. Check here to see.


black/lt green is a ground. if that was cut, that's a grounding issue :P

Jeff_Ciesielski 04-06-2009 02:50 PM


Originally Posted by TurboRoach (Post 391878)
I don't know if this is usually a problem for you guys running the MS, but there is a wire at the back of the intake on the 1.6 that caused some nasty noise for the Adaptronic. It would drive fine at low loads but high load you never new what was going to happen. Check here to see.

Hmm, I'll have to look into that. Btw, your name is jeff, you live in seattle, and you drive a 92 miata with a standalone. Way to steal my identity...bastard :laugh:

Jeff_Ciesielski 04-06-2009 03:00 PM

It may be Brainiac ftw here. Those couple of spots where stuff was shrink wrapped together ( notably the brown ignitor wire and the blue/white cas signal wire ) were touching other pins on adapter plug side. that could have been causing a SHITLOAD of interference with my cas signal.

TurboRoach 04-06-2009 06:06 PM


Originally Posted by Jeff_Ciesielski (Post 391888)
Hmm, I'll have to look into that. Btw, your name is jeff, you live in seattle, and you drive a 92 miata with a standalone. Way to steal my identity...bastard :laugh:

Ha! You're actually number 3. I think... There was another Jeff that had a black one, I haven't heard from him in a while so you might get to be #2. :giggle:

Jeff_Ciesielski 04-07-2009 05:47 AM

Went out for a drive ( to work :( ) and still no go. I'm going to try re-routing that signal ground, but I really dont think thats the issue as my signals look pretty clean. If thats not the issue, I'll try running additional grounds from the ms to the block, and if all else fails, shielded cas wires / new cas :(

Jeff_Ciesielski 04-08-2009 03:26 PM

*Fixed*

Did some reading, and on a whim, pulled my plugs. HOLY FREAKIN SHIT. 1. they were so corroded, it felt like they were jb-welded into the head ( the previous owner's dad is a mazda mechanic, before they sold it to me he said he did a "full tune up" on the car ... me not double checking = fail ). 2. They were gapped to .065" which was partly due to worn electrodes. Slapped in a fresh set of bkr7e's gapped to .025 and all of my problems went away. Funny how its always the simple stuff eh?

Jeff_Ciesielski 04-08-2009 03:28 PM


Originally Posted by TurboRoach (Post 392027)
Ha! You're actually number 3. I think... There was another Jeff that had a black one, I haven't heard from him in a while so you might get to be #2. :giggle:

http://www.jalopnik.com/cars/assets/...tin-Powers.jpg

I look damn good in an eyepatch :giggle:


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