New timing Map
 

Jealous? ...it's big.

http://www.boostedmiata.com/gallery2...iii_timing.jpg

you have more timing at 230 than I do at 180 lulz. I need to start putting these det cans to good use and finally massage my timing map:giggle:

Thanx for the inspiration

Silly big :)

I'll be jealous when you get the MS3X module aswell ;)

Why do you run 17deg on overrun? for the childish pops and bangs?

I run at 170 and 205 kPa, so my 230 row really isnt tuned/needed.

It was suggested to me by y8s to try running the over run like that, i don't have any after fires or anything.

I might not wait for the MSX module, not sure, as I can just build in an extra fuel and spark circuits and be on my merry way. Now if someone can develop a SD card ribbon extension cable...I'll be all over that.

just buy a cheap sd card, and a cheap sd card reader.

-Open the card and gut it. Solder wires to the contacts (thin hookup wire)
-Glue card back together
-Terminate wire ends when cable is as long as you need.
-Open card reader
-Cut out all associated USB junk
-Route cable into spot where USB cable came into the enclosure
-Solder wires onto SD card slot
-Glue back shut

Alternatively, buy a SD card slot on digikey and solder the cable to that. Then just hotglue the pins so they can't contact each other and wrap it all in electrical tape.

I've done it before long ago. Basically makes a SD card extension cable. SD is just another serial protocol. Uses 2 contacts for RX and TX, and a few others for power, gnd, and sync.

thanks neo! you are awesome when you don't belittle me.

I've not seen any info on the MSIII daughtercard for controling 2 extra injector outputs, gorra link?

If it's possible like my MSII setup MS3X isn't really worth it for us unless you desperately need the outputs.

MS3 can run 8 injector drivers ;)

Wow! I do like the map, may try it since I can listen for det. Haven't bumped mine up yet.

I do wish I had 0.1* resolution though....

Yah, but it cannot run a 15 cylinder engine. :laugh:

Shutup woman! Get on my horse!

There I corrected your mistake.

you could possible run a v16 in batch!

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the MSX card just has the built in spark, squirt and relay circuits built in with an easy way to run them out the harness.

I'd need a way to fit two spark circuits and one injector driver circuit in my Proto area. I think I have all my spare outputs free so I can still run them easily through the db37.

Can I adapt the sequential fuel mod for the DIYPNP to my v3.0 board?

Thats not "silly" big
what has held me back from MS in the past is the poor resolution.
That will give you some good resolution for high vac and tip in that I feel is needed for a nice 'feeling' tune

Smart idea: Take a pin header with enough pins for your inputs/outputs and solder it to the proto area. Then take a piece or protoboard and make your circuit on it, and solder on female pin header. Put it into your pin header. Voila, extended proto area that fits inside the case.

well i might acutally see what protoboard i can fit that will slide into the case next to the new MSIII chip and make my own weakass expansion board.

this assume assumes im not too lazy to build a new standalone harness and acutally run wires to do sequential...

Well.....its warm outside now, so that throws you biggest excuse (<cry> its cold </cry>) right out the window.

yeah, well im in GA, so i have another.

Here is a little something I wrote just for you. Not including the .h file but it only contains one function. Its simple, basic c but its effective :)

#include "braineack.h"
#include <iostream>

char answer;
bool reply;

int main()
{
cout << "Is your name Braineack? Y=Yes / N=No";
cin >> answer;

reply = braineack(asnwer);

if(reply)
cout << "You are a lazy horse F-er";
else
cout << "You drive a miata, you're still gay";

return 0;
}

{if $user.username == 'neogenesis2004'}
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I can haz?

I need to do this to my little MS1.

Sure it can. Batch and a distributor, and you're totally golden. :giggle:

Mad java scripts going down, wish I still remembered that language; Long long time agoo..

i acutally used three languages.

Html, Javascript, andddddd english? hahahha

css?

Pretty much.

As I understand, you can not use the 2 onboard drivers with 2 outboard drivers for 4 cylinder sequential. However, you can use 2 of the seq fuel cards (for 4 total outboard drivers), or probably more ideally use one of the driver boards from the JBPerf.com website.

smartie, html, and javascript. im only barely fluent in one, so im not really 1337 I just pretend.

ah good idea thanks.

I was going off of this link with not running a 15 cylinder engine. As I was reading the mega manual last night the part saying it would not run the 15 cylinder just made me :laugh:.

With the 4-Channel Ignition/Injection Driver Board I would simply use the MS3X output settings and pull the outputs off the Expansion headerboards right?

I remember looking into it before and remembered needing to make changes to the mainboard in order to run sequential before on MS-II.

I would think so. It's uncharted my man. You can be the first. :brain:

With the MS2 daughterboard, you are correct.

going to need my spare MS-I box back from shuiends, so I have a backup ;)

You can have your pos MS back. Stupid thing dooes not have fans setup right for my car.

Makes sense, I was assuming the MS3X was like a GIPO and added the extra functions, cheers Brain & Ben.

Want one a bit more now I know I don't need the MS3X card, already rocking the JBPerf card :)

Mmm, I can edit but not remove

I did that on purpose! :laugh: :brain:

I think you meant "sammich"

Ken

The MS3X board was purpose-built to hook up to the 2 headers on the MS3 board. If you're doing your own I/O boards you must be VERY careful not to short any of the pins to each other on either of the 2 headers on the MS3 board. There is no protection between those pins, and therefore things can be fried if you short them.

I would normally recommend the ms3x board for that reason... you just connect the ribbon cables, rewire a few injector outputs (if you want sequential, you have to use the ms3x outputs for all 4. We don't support using the original 2 as 2 outputs along with 2 of the "MS3X" outputs as the second two), and you're ready to go. You *can* leave your coils wired however you already have them. We support using those or connecting them to the ms3x board.

When I tested the first batch of ms3x boards in the corolla, I ran with the ms3x board controlling my 3-wire idle valve (didn't work, one of the reasons for the respin), all 4 of my coils (had to jumper the series resistors on the outputs to the coils, another of the reasons for respin) and my 4 injectors sequentially. This was on a 20v 4age in an ae86 corolla. The video of that is here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1j9sYZOeJg

That said, even I don't have one of the second run of ms3x boards yet, and I have to test one of those before anyone in the general public will get one!

Ken

Ken,
While running sequential fuel off the MS3X board, can the MS3's injector drivers be used for staged injection?

Yes, that can be done.

But the primaries must be run from the first 4 injector outputs on the ms3x board, and in the case you mention, you can run the secondaries in sequential off the second set of 4 ms3x outputs, or you can run the secondaries in batch semi-sequential mode off the standard v3 outputs.

Ken

any time frame and/or cost point? I can wait to upgrade to sequential, I have to redo my coil wiring and hack up my injector harness.

Roger. That is how Matt & I saw it. Thanks.

Last I heard the cost is going to be ~$100 but DIY would have a better idea of that.

We should be getting the actual boards to me and beta testers very soon (last I heard was "4 weeks," and that was about 4 weeks ago).

I'll have to ping Bruce and see.

Ken

is here:

http://www.boostedmiata.com/gallery2...2/DSC_0021.JPG

looks rubbish, send it to me ;)

well it's not syncing at the moment.... :cry:

4G63 mode?
Are you rising or falling edge?

Post a composite and a tooth log

I got my MS3 flashed tonight. I got the car running but it would die immediately unless I gave it gas. Then as soon as I let off gas it would die again. I will be getting data logs and playing with it more tomorrow.

:bigtu: Probably too lean. You guys have fun. I haz no MS3. :cry:

Might be to lean. Basically I was having errors with the msq I made when going from MS2 to MS3. So Scott sent me his clean msq file and I loaded it and just tried starting and it went. Then the battery on my laptop died so no more tuning for the night. I did forget to change my base timing setting when I loaded his map so I think that is really far off and probably has a good bit to do with it.

it was a config error; I had the output PM5 set for my fan control, but also set under the new fan control function. Should be good to go, just need to time to swap it in.