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jeff_man 09-27-2011 03:31 PM

Tablet running ms gauges
 
I did search but didn't find what i was looking for before i got lazy.


Goal, To be able to tune and log from a tablet (non tablet pc if i can). Also to run live gauges as a home made dash on the tablet. I know it's easier to tune with a key bored as all the real tuning will be done with a laptop but would like to be able to on the fly log and make changes from my cool ass tablet dash bored.

What is a good tablet to look into for this application, guessing a windows 7 tab with a usb port so i can install drivers and all that goodness for db9 adapter but also looking into wireless/bluetooth ones.

edumacate me.

Jeff_Ciesielski 09-27-2011 03:52 PM

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How much are you looking to spend on a windows 7 capable tablet?

Not quite what you're going for, but I picked up this:
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-U...2021.40.19.jpg

And will be grabbing one of these:
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1317153184
(wiznet RS232->TCP/IP converter)

To build a datalogger/monitoring display and possibly make changes to the VE/Timing tables (if I get really ambitious).
Total cost will be <$225

jeff_man 09-27-2011 04:24 PM


Originally Posted by Jeff_Ciesielski (Post 776559)
And will be grabbing one of these:
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1317153184
(wiznet RS232->TCP/IP converter)

Want to go wireless but good idea.

Joe Perez 09-27-2011 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by jeff_man (Post 776548)
Goal, To be able to tune and log from a tablet (non tablet pc if i can).

I'm not sure what a tablet non-tablet is, and while it may not be exactly the implementation you're thinking of, I've been doing precisely this since '06. Here's a picture of my old setup:

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1317155659

The machine is a Fujitsu Stylistic 3400, circa 1999. It's got 64 megs of RAM and a 400 Mhz Pentium III. This one is running Windows 2000.

On the plus side, these machines are cheap as hell. There are some slightly newer versions that run a tad faster, but even this one perfectly adequate for running MegaTune, although I never got TunerStudio working on it.

On the minus side, all of these machines are fairly old, so the batteries are dead and the touchscreens are starting to get a bit flaky.



I'd love to use something like an Android tablet instead.

There does appear to be some development work going on in this direction, but I've not heard of any actual, functioning software yet.


If you're willing to spend the money ($420 and up), any Win7 tablet which has a USB port will work just fine- just a matter of personal taste at that point. I'd like this one: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...522&CatId=6958


There are also some Windroid tablet starting to come out which, in theory, give you the best of both worlds.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...=1&srchInDesc=

Jeff_Ciesielski 09-27-2011 04:40 PM


Originally Posted by jeff_man (Post 776576)
Want to go wireless but good idea.

Toss in a cheap wireless router and it can be :D

Joe Perez 09-27-2011 04:45 PM

Also, you can get bluetooth <-> RS232 adapters.

http://www.megamanual.com/com/bluetooth.html

jeff_man 09-27-2011 04:47 PM


Originally Posted by Joe Perez (Post 776577)
I'm not sure what a tablet non-tablet is, and while it may not be exactly the implementation you're thinking of

Tablet pc are touch screen laptops that let you fold the screen so it's just a table with no key bored.

Non pc tablet is your ipad/netpad stile tables where there is no keybored.

Want to get one with at lest 1 usb in and little bit of searching shows me there are a lot of options for that.

Did look at the Windroid and it would have a removable mount so i can use it for more then the car. But would want to mount it where the oem gauges are.

Might just pick one up from fry's and test for a week then return it.


would http://www.megamanual.com/com/bluetooth.html work with Reverant's MS2? Guessing it's all universal serial.
$40 less $30 less http://store.wcscnet.com/cgi/display...WBTRS232SINGLE

bmxfuel007 09-27-2011 05:03 PM

can always try something like a dell inspiron duo, although a bit expensive for what you get hardware wise. maybe used? before i bought a cheap netbook for tuning, i was thinking about a trying a tablet or something, but cost was a big factor. decided to go with a used $125 netbook that usually goes for $250 new

it's just a matter of time until someone releases a windows tablet that isn't a rip off, or just wait for the stuff now to be old and cheap

Joe Perez 09-27-2011 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by jeff_man (Post 776582)
Tablet pc are touch screen laptops that let you fold the screen so it's just a table with no key bored.

Non pc tablet is your ipad/netpad stile tables where there is no keybored.

Gotcha.

The 12 year old machine I use is a tablet then; no keyboard except the on-screen display.
The newer Stylistic machines are also pure tablets.




Did look at the Windroid and it would have a removable mount so i can use it for more then the car. But would want to mount it where the oem gauges are.
I dunno, I kind of like have a speedometer and a fuel gauge...

At 10.1 x 5.4, this machine is one of the smallest of the current-available tablets, and it runs Win7.


https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1317157778

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1317157778


would http://www.megamanual.com/com/bluetooth.html work with Reverant's MS2? Guessing it's all universal serial.
The serial ports are the same on all Megasquirts, they all use the same Maxim chip. You just need to make sure that power and ground are provided for the unit as per the link I posted earlier.

jeff_man 09-27-2011 05:11 PM


Originally Posted by Joe Perez (Post 776592)
Gotcha.

The 12 year old machine I use is a tablet then; no keyboard except the on-screen display.
The newer Stylistic machines are also pure tablets.



I dunno, I kind of like have a speedometer and a fuel gauge...

Wanted to look in to a digital speedo that i can set seeing as my stock speedo is off in every gear by a different amount do to trans and diff swaps. Fuel gauge i think i will still be able to see if i leave the left corner uncovered.


This seems appropriate

Techsalvager 09-27-2011 09:23 PM

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Dell Latitude XT with base station

Tablet\laptop and base station has built in serial port.

relatively new, core 2 duo

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1317173070


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