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o.e.boost 11-07-2007 11:07 AM

Tuning on the Fly
 
im in the market right now for a ems but can decide if i should just buy mspnp or save a little more for aem standalone...

my questions about mspnp are:
---can you tuning the fuel/ignition cells on the fly?

---anti-lag possibly?...i would be useful for big turbos(knowing the consequences)

Braineack 11-07-2007 11:23 AM

yes and yes.

there's autotune & realtime manual tuning
plus EGO corrections for closed loop AFR targets

traction control, antilag (flatshift), launch control built in as well.

y8s 11-07-2007 11:35 AM

flat shift != anti lag.

flat shift is a rolling rev limiter that means you can keep the pedal matted and the RPM will stay at your optimal shift completion RPM.

anti lag is combustion in the mani to spool the turbo.

Braineack 11-07-2007 11:40 AM

turn spark cut on during flatshift and you pretty much have antilag.

Tesseracter 11-07-2007 11:23 PM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 171865)
turn spark cut on during flatshift and you pretty much have antilag.

Hmm. I thought antilag was spark on during the exhaust cycle, along with fuel, so the fuel would light as it was being pushed out of the chamber. not that i would do such a thing, i wouldnt want to replace my exhaust mani/turbo every time I used it.

o.e.boost 11-08-2007 05:44 AM

cool but i noticed that the aem standalones, you were able to enter the ratio while in that cell...therefore tuning on the fly...

--i noticed on some of the idle adjustable windows it said burn to ecu and was under the impression that you had to do the same for the fuel maps...

screen shots maybe?:bowdown:

richyvrlimited 11-08-2007 06:37 AM


Originally Posted by o.e.boost (Post 172200)
cool but i noticed that the aem standalones, you were able to enter the ratio while in that cell...therefore tuning on the fly...

--i noticed on some of the idle adjustable windows it said burn to ecu and was under the impression that you had to do the same for the fuel maps...

screen shots maybe?:bowdown:

you could just d/l the software and look for yourself.

the 3D IgnAdv and 3d VE tables alter on the fly, but changes are only stored in flash. They're permanetly burned when you hit the burn to ECU button, if you don't and then close the window/shuct down the engine the changes will be lost.

everthing else that can be adjusted isn't in effect until you hit the burn to ECU button.

I can't see why adjusting anything else being instant rather than hitting a burn to ecu button would be in any way beneficial, infact having that button stops accidental changes ;)

Braineack 11-08-2007 09:10 AM


Originally Posted by Tesseracter (Post 172151)
Hmm. I thought antilag was spark on during the exhaust cycle, along with fuel, so the fuel would light as it was being pushed out of the chamber. not that i would do such a thing, i wouldnt want to replace my exhaust mani/turbo every time I used it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHuUfSPbhko

o.e.boost 11-08-2007 10:48 AM

thanks guys...this is what i thought but a tuner in my area said that megasquirt sucks due to the fact that "its basically a afc" but i needed something or someone in the area(no one) to back me up!!!...i never thought about downloading the software and showing him not to mess with megasquirt!!!!

richyvrlimited 11-08-2007 11:11 AM


Originally Posted by o.e.boost (Post 172277)
thanks guys...this is what i thought but a tuner in my area said that megasquirt sucks due to the fact that "its basically a afc" but i needed something or someone in the area(no one) to back me up!!!...i never thought about downloading the software and showing him not to mess with megasquirt!!!!

Name the tuner, then everyone knows to avoid him.

cjernigan 11-08-2007 11:12 AM

Anyone that relates MS to a AFC is an idiot.

Braineack 11-08-2007 11:16 AM

I run my AFC as a stand alone, works awesome! :bigtu:

Jefe 11-08-2007 11:28 AM


Originally Posted by cjernigan (Post 172287)
Anyone that relates MS to a AFC is an idiot.

No- they're not an idiot, they probably read the same book Tom did on what an intercooler is...

Someone should edit Wikipedia so then it has to be true....

Braineack 11-08-2007 11:32 AM

5th injector = intercooler Jef, you know that, don't be an ass.

o.e.boost 11-08-2007 03:06 PM

he told me to opt for aem but for the price and adjustablilty of megasquirt it'll do fine for what it does!!!...

---apexi safc with bipes wouldn't be bad for a setup but combine the price you pay for both and you can get yourselft a mspnp!!!:bowdown:

cjernigan 11-08-2007 03:10 PM

You could go with a AEM FIC, they're cheap. $350 shipped from the right seller.

Jefe 11-08-2007 06:36 PM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 172300)
5th injector = intercooler Jef, you know that, don't be an ass.

:rofl:

Sorry I forgot.

Savington 11-08-2007 10:17 PM

I love these guys who don't think the Megasquirt can do anything, or the guys who refuse to tune it.

Al Hounos 11-08-2007 10:21 PM

"ya get what ya pay for" i always like that argument.

Braineack 11-08-2007 11:01 PM

I buy my HP at a discount store ;)

cjernigan 11-08-2007 11:26 PM

Personally I think MS has pretty baller software available:
Megatune realtime tuning-
Fuel
http://i7.tinypic.com/6tmuliw.png
Boost Duty Cycle
http://i15.tinypic.com/6od3mys.png
Megatunix, replaces megatune.
http://download.freshmeat.net/screenshots/51533.png

o.e.boost 11-08-2007 11:28 PM

but aem fic would be good and megasquirt is better...and it really seems that the aem standalone is neither overpriced for what it can really do!!! but megasquirt has my vote!!!

Braineack 11-08-2007 11:46 PM

however, two pc pros ownz all. one to control the 4 injectors, another to control the intercooler, how awesome.

o.e.boost 11-09-2007 12:30 AM

whats the difference between megatunix and megatune?

cjernigan 11-09-2007 12:36 AM

Megatune has autotune and runs in windows.
Megatunix was designed for a unix operating system but can be run in windows. It does not have a autotune function but it has fully customizable gauge layouts and designs as well as way cooler 3D graphs for real time tuning.

Good video to get the idea.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQZLL5VXZ6U


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