wierd startup problem
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ok, first of all, i installed a v2.2 in my friends 1990 miata with a jumper harness i made
my first issue was with the stim for wheel settings, the car will not run if its set to off, so i set it to on, function/output 2 and everything is good but when at initial startup, the car has a misfire for a moment, while its struggling to idle around 500, and as if someone flipped a switch, the mis goes away and idle jumps to 1200, and everything from there is smoooooth! is there something im doing wrong? i tried messing with the AFE settings and so far ive got the mis down to a min, without the car stalling out i uploaded my 4 recent msq's |
Are you running fuel only, or fuel and ignition control? Using Stim for Wheel on a car with ignition control can make a lot of trouble. With fuel only control, it probably won't hurt anything but I would still recommend fixing what's wrong.
It sounds like some of your ASE and warm-up enrichment settings may be a bit off. |
i believe this problem is in you afterstart enrichment. set that a little higher and bring your warmup enrichment down a hair. GL
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Originally Posted by Matt Cramer
(Post 120134)
Are you running fuel only, or fuel and ignition control? Using Stim for Wheel on a car with ignition control can make a lot of trouble. With fuel only control, it probably won't hurt anything but I would still recommend fixing what's wrong.
It sounds like some of your ASE and warm-up enrichment settings may be a bit off. im using fuel and ignition control and if i turn off stim for wheel, the car automatically shuts off and it will not start up again :( |
Originally Posted by slimeball6969
(Post 120308)
and if i turn off stim for wheel, the car automatically shuts off and it will not start up again
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Originally Posted by Matt Cramer
(Post 120491)
Sounds like you have some very wrong wheel decoder settings for that to happen. Could you post your MSQ file, either here or at msextra.com?
http://www.diyautotune.com/images/ca...eel_decode.gif http://www.diyautotune.com/tech_arti...azda_miata.htm i attached a rar in my first post here and last post here: http://www.msextra.com/viewtopic.php?p=150827#150827 thanks |
just load up a known good msq like the ms pnp one or mine in the setings sticky, that'll tell you if the problem is in your msq. i can tell that you should be running 1 for a and 2 for b and falling and 24s style decoder from that pic though.
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That's how it was done for ages on Miata's Al (as you said)-- then when I got together with James and Ken (the MS Extra coders) at the MS Meet they charted out the wheel and recommended the above instead. It seems to run just the same, but I went with what they recommended here...
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Originally Posted by FoundSoul
(Post 120705)
That's how it was done for ages on Miata's Al (as you said)-- then when I got together with James and Ken (the MS Extra coders) at the MS Meet they charted out the wheel and recommended the above instead. It seems to run just the same, but I went with what they recommended here...
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could it be the difference between the old natesully/kingof1337 style mods and the new DIY AT style? as in the msq only works with the matching mods? because I remember running 25 style decoder and it ran like crap. like you said the old-style settings have been running great in who knows how many miatas for years now, the only thing that has changed is the DIY AT mod style.
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Originally Posted by Al Hounos
(Post 120713)
could it be the difference between the old natesully/kingof1337 style mods and the new DIY AT style? as in the msq only works with the matching mods? because I remember running 25 style decoder and it ran like crap. like you said the old-style settings have been running great in who knows how many miatas for years now, the only thing that has changed is the DIY AT mod style.
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Originally Posted by FoundSoul
(Post 120720)
I've run both wheel decoder configs and couldn't tell a difference in how the car ran, I'm sticking with the above as thats what the actual coders worked out as the best solution. I wouldn't think it would differ for a differently built MS but...
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Originally Posted by Al Hounos
(Post 120713)
could it be the difference between the old natesully/kingof1337 style mods and the new DIY AT style? as in the msq only works with the matching mods? because I remember running 25 style decoder and it ran like crap. like you said the old-style settings have been running great in who knows how many miatas for years now, the only thing that has changed is the DIY AT mod style.
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The 024 style - it's slightly different.
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well, i tried the 024 without touching the stim for wheel setting
and after i set it, it really hurt my throttle response so i put it back |
I tried the diy wheel decoder settings this weekend and I'd say that they were an improvement over the 'old' settings. I used to get a tach spike at 2000 rpm which now seems to have gone. I'll be sticking with the diy wheel decoder settings from now on.
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thats cool, but still leaves me with the wierd startup problem
hey aussie, can you post up your msq for reference? thanks |
Originally Posted by slimeball6969
(Post 122110)
thats cool, but still leaves me with the wierd startup problem
hey aussie, can you post up your msq for reference? thanks |
still having that problem, i think its ignition dependant
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the car will not run unless STIM FOR WHEEL 2 is on
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