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ZX-Tex 05-02-2010 02:17 PM

Devil's Own outside mount nozzles
 
Paging Joe P or anyone else that can answer...

Joe IIRC from a previous thread you were thinking of developing a WI kit and were looking for a source for outside mount nozzles. Did you ever find a source? I am thinking about trying different nozzle sizes on my port WI setup but since I need four, at $20 each + shipping, experimentation is not cheap.

D.dutton9512 05-02-2010 02:52 PM

If you can find a way to use an inside mount temporarily you can test the different flow rates in nozzles from McMaster Carr. Those nozzles are only about $4

Godless Commie 05-02-2010 03:38 PM

You may wanna try Aquastealth.
The guy's name is Brian, and his prices are reasonable.

BTW, I am going for different take on the port WI setup (complete write up with pics coming soon) and I have decided to use the 70cc nozzles.
You can order them minus the pneumatic hose fittings (and transfer yours on them) , and they should be 10 bucks a piece that way.

What nozzles are you using currently?
And, how much flow are you getting out of them?

ZX-Tex 05-02-2010 06:51 PM

I'm using the DO external nozzles. I have four of them at 2 GPH each (flow rated at 100 psi). I am thinking of going to 1 GPH nozzles and pushing up the pressure which should get me to 1.5-1.7 GPH. That is enough to get a 15% water/fuel ratio with 50cc injectors.

The smaller nozzles and higher pressure should work better with the HSV setup I am working on; they will have more flow range while still providing good atomization.

Godless Commie 05-02-2010 06:56 PM

Looks like the 70cc nozzles would work fine for you, too.

ZX-Tex 05-02-2010 07:13 PM

Yes if I converted correctly 70cc/min is about 1.1 GPH which is close enough.

Godless Commie 05-02-2010 07:24 PM

Off topic and all, but how big a tank are you planning on?

Mine will be just about 3 gallons. I could have another 1.5 gallon tank for a total of about 5 gallons (together with the plumbing capacity), but I am thinking what I have should be enough.

ZX-Tex 05-02-2010 07:29 PM

Right now I am just running it off of the stock washer fluid bottle. For a DD it is enough for me since I am not in boost all the time.

Godless Commie 05-02-2010 07:30 PM

Thanks.
That should be about a gallon, right?

ZX-Tex 05-02-2010 08:35 PM

I have never measured it but I think it is probably much less than a gallon. I do not think an entire bottle of washer fluid will fit in one IIRC.

magnamx-5 05-05-2010 10:28 AM

its about 2/3 of a gallon. Tex most nozzles have pretty good atomization down to about 60-70 psi. So i would size for that and then factor in my running pressure.

Joe Perez 05-05-2010 11:55 AM

I kinda lost interest in that project after discovering that the CA registration laws were not conducive to the car I was planning. In fact, I just ordered another nozzle from DO.

Not sure about the NB, but on a US-spec non-ABS NA, the washer bottle holds a total of 1.65 liters (0.435 gal) of which only about 1 liter is useful volume, owing to the weird shape and the fact that you can't mount your pickup at the very bottom. (Or at least, I couldn't figure out a way to.)

ZX-Tex 05-05-2010 12:29 PM


Originally Posted by magnamx-5 (Post 568262)
its about 2/3 of a gallon. Tex most nozzles have pretty good atomization down to about 60-70 psi. So i would size for that and then factor in my running pressure.

It turns out that the HSV has a pressure limit of 150 psi so I will probably stay with the 2 gpm ones I have now after all :facepalm:

Thanks just the same


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