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Joe Perez 06-09-2009 10:37 AM

Outside-mount nozzles
 
Does anybody know where one can find outside mount nozzles? I don't mean buying them from DO, snow, or Coolingmist, I mean where are they buying them from?

I've found several dozen vendors who sell misting / atomizing nozzles of the sort that we need, but every single one of them is inside-mount.


In other words,

Bad:
http://img40.picoodle.com/img/img40/...tm_62910bb.jpg



Good:
http://img38.picoodle.com/img/img38/...zm_64183bf.jpg

magnamx-5 06-09-2009 10:43 AM

snow used em in my kit. you can swap out the jets inside there and such its decent but i like the quick disconnect stuff better on mine. there is also some quick disconnect stuff outside mount as well http://www.coolingmist.com/detailmain.aspx?pid=13N180 from cooling mist if you know your size already and can specify before hand. http://www.coolingmist.com/products/...3N180large.jpg

Nice splitter as well
http://www.coolingmist.com/detailmain.aspx?pid=4port
http://www.coolingmist.com/products/...4portlarge.jpg

Joe Perez 06-09-2009 10:44 AM


Originally Posted by magnamx-5 (Post 417372)
snow used em in my kit.

What does that mean, exactly?

I'm not saying there's anything wrong with inside-mount nozzles from a performance standpoint, but from a mechanical fitment standpoint I need some outside-mount units.

sixshooter 06-09-2009 10:51 AM

Google Image Result for http://www.allproducts.com/machine/wuli/31-fogging_nozzle-l.jpg


or this?

http://www.diytrade.com/china/4/prod...st_Nozzle.html

or these?

http://www.diytrade.com/china/4/prod...l_nozzles.html

Check this DIY page out. It's a turbo Mopar:
http://www.turbodiy.com/Mopar%20Pages/alcohol_spray.htm

magnamx-5 06-09-2009 10:51 AM

i dont know if they still use them or not cause i bought my shit like 3 yrs ago and havent dealt with them since. lol
Newb i like the outside mount quick disconnects above all they pwn. less shit to breack on me in there.

Joe Perez 06-09-2009 10:57 AM


Originally Posted by magnamx-5 (Post 417372)
snow used em in my kit.

That's nice. I know that Snow sells 'em, along with Coolingmist and DO. I want to know where you can get them from someone other than a WI kit vendor. IOW, where do they get them?

None of those are outside mount.

I've been to all the industrial supplier sites I can find, both the US ones and the Chinese-import sites. Can't find anything with outside thread on the business end.

bryanlow 06-09-2009 11:22 AM


Originally Posted by Joe Perez (Post 417367)
Does anybody know where one can find outside mount nozzles? I don't mean buying them from DO, snow, or Coolingmist, I mean where are they buying them from?

I've found several dozen vendors who sell misting / atomizing nozzles of the sort that we need, but every single one of them is inside-mount.


In other words,

Bad:
http://img40.picoodle.com/img/img40/...tm_62910bb.jpg



Good:
http://img38.picoodle.com/img/img38/...zm_64183bf.jpg

I can't find them either. Go get another lathe, turn down the hex end and cut some threads.

y8s 06-09-2009 11:43 AM

I was gonna suggest that OR

get some smooth ended external (male) pipe plugs and a teenie tiny drill bit and just screw them (backwards) into something else with a lot of threadlocker and leave half of it hanging out. if you use brass, you can solder them together.

http://www.mcmaster.com/param/images...xsocketdec.gif

http://www.mcmaster.com/param/images...71_180x120.gif

of course this assumes a straight tiny hole is a decent nozzle.

Joe Perez 06-09-2009 12:08 PM


Originally Posted by y8s (Post 417401)
of course this assumes a straight tiny hole is a decent nozzle.

It also assumes that there's no filter screen.

y8s 06-09-2009 12:27 PM


Originally Posted by Joe Perez (Post 417406)
It also assumes that there's no filter screen.

inline filters/screens are probably easier to find than magic externally threaded nozzles, no?

Joe Perez 06-09-2009 12:36 PM

True. I've got a source on some fine-mesh inline filters, though they're sufficiently large that they'd need to go up at the pump. Trying to be as paranoid as possible about the chance of tiny bits of spooge being in the line or intermediate hardware. IOW, a screen at the nozzle will catch anything.

The idea merits investigation however. I've found some drill bits that (if I can find something steady enough to hold them) would probably work. Time for some flow testing...

sixshooter 06-09-2009 01:01 PM


Originally Posted by Joe Perez (Post 417412)
Time for some flow testing...

http://www.cartoonstock.com/newscart...s/bron777l.jpg

bryanlow 06-09-2009 01:33 PM

Yeah, not so sure about reinventing the wheel... I just got some nozzles yesterday. There's stuff in there...
https://www.miataturbo.net/gallery/f...4/p1090001.jpg

This part looks like it'd be hard to duplicate:
https://www.miataturbo.net/gallery/f...4/p1090002.jpg

magnamx-5 06-09-2009 01:45 PM

iono maybe mcmaster car. I got selenoids from them identical to the shit they sell.

Joe Perez 06-09-2009 02:15 PM

Tried that. McMaster has a tonne of nozzles, but they all seem to be the more common inside-mount variety.

ZX-Tex 06-09-2009 02:27 PM

Yeah I looked at mcmaster as well and did not see them.

Outside mount FTW. Easier to change out, less likely to fall into the inlet tract and get sucked into the engine.

elesjuan 06-09-2009 03:25 PM


Originally Posted by ZX-Tex (Post 417430)
Yeah I looked at mcmaster as well and did not see them.

Outside mount FTW. Easier to change out, less likely to fall into the inlet tract and get sucked into the engine.


I'm confused?

how is this going to fall out into the engine??

http://www.coolingmist.com/products/...3N180large.jpg

Joe Perez 06-09-2009 03:29 PM


Originally Posted by elesjuan (Post 417454)
How is this going to fall out into the engine??

It isn't.

The picture you have shown is an outside-mount nozzle, which is exactly what I'm looking for. Only for reasons other than because I'm concerned about it falling into the engine.

elesjuan 06-09-2009 03:48 PM


Originally Posted by Joe Perez (Post 417457)
It isn't.

The picture you have shown is an outside-mount nozzle, which is exactly what I'm looking for. Only for reasons other than because I'm concerned about it falling into the engine.


:bowrofl: I Fail....

Hmm.. Random curiosity, just don't want to pay what they're charging or want to market your own?

Full_Tilt_Boogie 07-14-2009 08:22 PM

What about dry nitrous nozzles?

http://static.summitracing.com/globa...ns6550-1_w.jpg

http://static.summitracing.com/globa...ozzle116_w.jpg

http://static.summitracing.com/globa...13500nos_w.jpg


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