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y8s 06-19-2012 12:00 PM

Almost New Kee NB Cloth Economy Top with Defrost $225 shipped.
 
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Kee black canvas economy (just means no rear flaps) top with rear glass window and defroster. Fit's NB frame. Originally $420 or so. Does not include rain rail.

So here's the deal: I got a Kee economy top and some of the overlapping seams delaminated. The supplier replaced the top but never asked for the original back. It's been sitting around for 6-8 months in its box.

Here is the top immediately after installation:

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...1&d=1340130515

Here is the top during installation:

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...2&d=1340130515

The seams that gave me issues are the ones surrounding the back window. At the top and bottom, they started to separate.

A strong fabric-compatible contact cement (or maybe gorilla glue) applied to both sides of the flaps and clamped into place would fix it nicely. I suspect that the installation was too tight (don't tighten the rear rail bolts until it has a chance to sit in the sun after you install!) and now that the fabric is stretched some, it wont pull at those seams as much.

In theory you could run it as is with the loose material. The window is not held in by that fabric that I am aware of, it's just trim to make it look nice.

PM Or Email if you're interested.

etikoner 06-19-2012 01:37 PM

Pics aren't working.. Is this a black top?

y8s 06-19-2012 02:23 PM

yes, it's black canvas. pics work for me. it's braineack's site. i'll make him diagnose.

y8s 06-19-2012 02:28 PM

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pictures fixed.

atli126 06-20-2012 11:31 PM

so its just the top right not the rail too? i would need a nb rail for this to work...

y8s 06-21-2012 10:46 AM


Originally Posted by atli126 (Post 893178)
so its just the top right not the rail too? i would need a nb rail for this to work...

Just the canvas. I had to re-use the rain rail I had. I also had to re-use the top frame (folding, sprung metal bars that hold the canvas off your head)

atli126 06-22-2012 12:58 PM

Ok I'm interested, please send me some better pics of where it is separated. 5024243363. I think I've found a NB top frame too

etikoner 06-22-2012 04:16 PM

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I sent 20 bucks to the wrong ------- person....

so fucknig lame.

y8s 06-22-2012 04:59 PM


Originally Posted by atli126 (Post 894106)
Ok I'm interested, please send me some better pics of where it is separated. 5024243363. I think I've found a NB top frame too

I will try to pull it out of the box and get some better shots for you this weekend. I've got a boatload going on at my house so it may not be until sunday.


Originally Posted by etikoner (Post 894219)
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I sent 20 bucks to the wrong ------- person....

so fucknig lame.

I want twenty bucks!?

Enginerd 06-24-2012 09:25 PM


Originally Posted by etikoner (Post 894219)
----

I sent 20 bucks to the wrong ------- person....

so fucknig lame.

Is that the $20 that I was expecting but never received? I never did get a response back from you. . .

y8s 06-25-2012 09:37 AM


Originally Posted by etikoner (Post 894219)
----

I sent 20 bucks to the wrong ------- person....

so fucknig lame.


Originally Posted by cymx5 (Post 894873)
Is that the $20 that I was expecting but never received? I never did get a response back from you. . .

i wonder if you could sell this story to amazon for direct publishing to kindle after you're both banned for crapping in a supermod's for sale thread.

etikoner 06-25-2012 12:05 PM

Lol, ---- I had no idea that I actually posted this on the forum. (meant to pm that message)

I need to stop coming here really late at night.

Once again, sorry.

The soft top looks really cool though, glws.

hamburger1971 06-25-2012 01:00 PM

Hi, I'm interested in the top, not too far away (MD). I'll PM with some questions.

Jeff

y8s 06-25-2012 04:34 PM


Originally Posted by y8s (Post 894249)
I will try to pull it out of the box and get some better shots for you this weekend. I've got a boatload going on at my house so it may not be until sunday.


Oops I forgot to do this! Reminder to self.

atli126 06-29-2012 12:38 AM

I'm still interested in this

y8s 06-29-2012 08:29 AM

I am going to take the box and put it on my couch so I remember to take those pictures.

Getting ready for new baby to come means slow brain.

But dont worry, once someone pays me, stuff ships immediately. Same or next day.

y8s 06-29-2012 08:34 AM

FWIW I would try either 3M "10" contact adhesive or 3M "30-NF" contact adhesive, the latter having a higher operating temp range.

Both are available at McMaster-Carr.

McMaster Part number:
3M 10: 75425A67
3M 30-NF: 75425A68

atli126 07-01-2012 04:23 AM

I'd buy it now if I had a nb frame. What else will I need coming from a na?

y8s 07-01-2012 12:52 PM

a rain rail for an NB top. some rivets--I forget what size. a rivet gun. a drill the size of the rivets (unless your frame has no top on it).

Pictures are going to have to wait a while longer. We've got no power at our house and it's 100 degrees and humid. I'm at a neighbor's place with A/C and TV.

atli126 07-01-2012 09:05 PM

No problem. Any way you could help me source a nb frame?

y8s 07-02-2012 10:13 AM

Find someone with a race car NB that removed the top or check with a salvage yard.

maybe FM or partsgroup or the like has one? there are other places that might or maybe someone is parting out an NB still?

atli126 07-06-2012 04:12 AM

i think i might have found one, but its pricey, are you willing to take less on this, esp since there is no guarantee to seal it back up

y8s 07-06-2012 10:08 AM


Originally Posted by atli126 (Post 899812)
i think i might have found one, but its pricey, are you willing to take less on this, esp since there is no guarantee to seal it back up

PM me an offer!

elesjuan 07-06-2012 08:27 PM

Wish you would've posted this two months ago!!

GLWS!

atli126 07-10-2012 02:32 AM

Pics?

y8s 07-10-2012 09:58 AM

just set myself a reminder to do it tonight when I get home from my "how to pop a baby out of your wife" class.

atli126 07-10-2012 07:44 PM

Haha okay cool. Did you take a class that showed you how to put a baby in their prior?

y8s 07-10-2012 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by atli126 (Post 901675)
Haha okay cool. Did you take a class that showed you how to put a baby in their prior?

All the videos I've seen suggest pulling out and aiming various other places, but apparently that's unproductive. or should I say unreproductive...

photos up the wazoo:

Here's a good shot of what's up. The flap around the window pulled off.
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1341974843

Shot of the defroster connection. Standard 2001 style.
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1341974843

I think this is the top edge of the window. While the fabric does pull up pretty far, there's no visible holes and you can't see whatever the window is mounted to. Seems there's some stronger stuff holding the interior edge.
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1341974843

The outside of the window. You can't tell anything is up from this side.
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1341974843

Full disclosure: I didn't wash the car before pulling the top since it was originally going back to the manufacturer. This is normal "car was outside" dirt.
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1341974843

Close up of outside
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1341974843

Close up of outside
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1341974843

Interior reinforcement pad that also delaminated. There are two. Same idea as the surround.
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1341974843

Entire outside. Space is limited in my house.
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1341974843
Click here for huge version.

Entire inside. Ignore the cat food.
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1341974843
Click here for huge version.

Showing the inside top and bottom of the window that needs to be re-glued.
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1341974843

Proof that you'll get the instructions that came with it and care instructions on the back of a probably unusable warranty card.
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1341974843

atli126 07-11-2012 10:23 AM

Hey I am ready to pay and get this. But I'm wondering if you could help me bc of have a hard dog extreme roll bar. And am not sure that I can run the rear glass Window. I currently have a plastic Window that is always unzip when I put it down

y8s 07-11-2012 11:35 AM

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I just accepted the payment before seeing you had a question BUT:

Bethania's description says it works. And they have a picture of it in an NB...

Miata Xtreme Bar
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1342020935

bilgen 07-12-2012 08:29 AM

So it's sold?

y8s 07-12-2012 11:11 AM

oh
yes
it's sold.

sorry!


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