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nigelt 09-21-2018 01:31 AM

Flow Force 380cc Injectors Testers Wanted
 
These started life in a 5.0L Mustang, or maybe a E-150 van or F-150. I buy them with low mileage and clean, backflush, and ultrasonic bathe them, before being flow testing and matching. I developed custom tooling to modify the tops so they will fit in the Miata fuel rail, and now they are ready for action! The problem is, I don't have a car ready to put these in yet right now, so if anyone is interested in trying them out, You can save dozens of dollars.
Just like FF640s, they are Bosch EV14 with unmodified tips for OEM precision and atomization and come with plug and play kits. They are ideal for someone who is running a higher powered naturally aspirated build with E85, or a lower-powered gas turbo project on a budget. Flow rate at 3bar is 380cc, 440cc at 4bar. That means they should be good for around 200whp in an NA; 230whp in an NB.
Once we get some miles on and some positive feedback, these will go on sale for $239. The first couple people who want to test them out (and are ready to install them shortly) can have a set for $150.
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...3d9606f89b.jpgModified tops to fit the Miata fuel rail
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...4f174f3a80.jpgPNP kit and flow rate card
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...20bc9ce4f3.png

18psi 09-21-2018 03:17 AM

Ooh interesting. Is this the same sort of deal as the 960's where you're looking for pnp data? or do they come with all specs

HarryB 09-21-2018 07:56 AM

Damn it;literally just bought your BYOI kit plus GT500 injectors last week, and these seem much closer to my actual needs. Oh well.

nigelt 09-21-2018 09:35 AM


Originally Posted by 18psi (Post 1502759)
Ooh interesting. Is this the same sort of deal as the 960's where you're looking for pnp data? or do they come with all specs

They come with dead times I found on the internets. They are a super common injector though, so I am expecting them to be pretty accurate. I'm mostly interested in acecdotal experience of drivability, idle, install ease etc.

nigelt 09-21-2018 09:36 AM


Originally Posted by HarryB (Post 1502769)
Damn it;literally just bought your BYOI kit plus GT500 injectors last week, and these seem much closer to my actual needs. Oh well.

Now you can go big though!

andym 09-21-2018 10:02 AM

PM'd. Don't know if I would qualify as a tester.

nigelt 09-21-2018 10:25 AM


Originally Posted by andym (Post 1502781)
PM'd. Don't know if I would qualify as a tester.

You are in!

Stock 09-21-2018 10:27 AM

What do you consider "shortly"? I'm on the ass-end of a VVT swap in my 95 that will be E85/E98 powered. Looking for first-start and tuning in the next few months.

nigelt 09-21-2018 11:09 AM


Originally Posted by Stock (Post 1502784)
What do you consider "shortly"? I'm on the ass-end of a VVT swap in my 95 that will be E85/E98 powered. Looking for first-start and tuning in the next few months.

I would measure shortly on a scale of days not months 😂

Marioshi 09-21-2018 11:24 AM

I'm interested, my engine swap wont be complete for a few weeks but i could throw them in for now with the stock motor (running on MS3)


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nigelt 09-21-2018 12:04 PM

That was quick! I was looking for 2 testers, and I just shipped both sets out.


Originally Posted by Marioshi (Post 1502792)
I'm interested, my engine swap wont be complete for a few weeks but i could throw them in for now with the stock motor (running on MS3)


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Marioshi, you are welcome to a set too. Just friends and family PayPal me and pm me your address.

That's all folks! That's for the super quick response!

Efini~FC3S 09-21-2018 03:25 PM

Want one more tester on a race car?

these would be good for a ST6/TT6 car running E85 at 140-150hp

nigelt 09-21-2018 08:16 PM


Originally Posted by Efini~FC3S (Post 1502838)
Want one more tester on a race car?

these would be good for a ST6/TT6 car running E85 at 140-150hp

Sure let's do it

ScottyP3821 09-29-2018 04:40 PM

Im curious if you will ever be offering the 47lb injectors from ford? Alot of NA mustang guys use them for e85. It would be a good injector for max stock bottom 90-05 without having to go up to a gt500 injector but not as small as the 36lb and still have great ve resolution. Late Model Restoration sells them for $275 (8) brand new from ford. I would love to have a set with your adapter kit and calibrated by you.

https://lmr.com/item/M9593LU47/Ford-...rs-M-9593-Lu47

nigelt 09-30-2018 01:13 AM


Originally Posted by ScottyP3821 (Post 1504016)
Im curious if you will ever be offering the 47lb injectors from ford? Alot of NA mustang guys use them for e85. It would be a good injector for max stock bottom 90-05 without having to go up to a gt500 injector but not as small as the 36lb and still have great ve resolution. Late Model Restoration sells them for $275 (8) brand new from ford. I would love to have a set with your adapter kit and calibrated by you.

https://lmr.com/item/M9593LU47/Ford-...rs-M-9593-Lu47

The 550cc (47lb) injectors are functionally equivalent to the bigger 640cc injectors, except they flow less and require cutting (like our new 380cc ones). There is no downside to the 640s other than price, so having a slightly smaller injector in our lineup doesn't really make sense. I wanted to be able to offer a much more affordable option on the low end, and the 550s wouldn't come out cheaper enough to be worth running as a separate product. The 380s, on the other hand, we can get from Ford dealers that upgrade 5.0L Mustangs with superchargers at the dealership, which means we can pick them up for far less than the 550s. That said we do offer that exact injector, flow matched for the NC, but we sell very few of them.

ScottyP3821 09-30-2018 06:52 PM


Originally Posted by nigelt (Post 1504064)
The 550cc (47lb) injectors are functionally equivalent to the bigger 640cc injectors, except they flow less and require cutting (like our new 380cc ones). There is no downside to the 640s other than price, so having a slightly smaller injector in our lineup doesn't really make sense. I wanted to be able to offer a much more affordable option on the low end, and the 550s wouldn't come out cheaper enough to be worth running as a separate product. The 380s, on the other hand, we can get from Ford dealers that upgrade 5.0L Mustangs with superchargers at the dealership, which means we can pick them up for far less than the 550s. That said we do offer that exact injector, flow matched for the NC, but we sell very few of them.

Thank you for the reply and clearing that up for me.

atli126 10-03-2018 10:06 AM

i will be interested in this for about a 200 hp turbo setup on my 99 nb, keep me on the burner as i hope to get this going this winter, i might not be your first tester but i might be interested in these


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