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Cxracer 06-24-2019 03:43 PM


Originally Posted by wombat57 (Post 1539889)
1. sonofthehill economy bearings with bimmerworld studs please. paid/shipped
2. bahurd economy bearings with bimmerworld studs please. paid/shipped
3. 99mx5 economy bearings with bimmerworld studs please.
4. TheBandit economy bearings with bimmerworld studs please.paid/shipped
5. BigEasy economy bearings with bimmerworld studs please. paid/shipped
6. Leboeuf economy bearings with bimmerworld studs please. paid/shipped
7. pcormier66 race kit timken with bimmerworld studs paid/shipped
8. portabull economy bearings with bimmerworld studs pleasepaid/shipped
9. Sierra_Bravo economy bearings with bimmerworld studs please.paid/shipped
10.Gee Emm - economy bearing bimmerworld studs paid/shipped
11. concealer404 economy bearing bimmerworld studs paid/shipped
12. Lokiel economy bearings with bimmerworld studs (assuming there will be a 2nd batch) paid/shipped
13. mweber economy bearing bimmerworld stud spaid/shipped
14. RASKAR economy bearings, bimmerworld studs paid/shipped
15. Maplewood economy bearings, bimmerworld studs paid/shipped
16. jspadaro economy bearings, bimmerworld studs paid/shipped
17. skipstr economy bearings, bimmerworld studs paid/shipped
18. navalhawkeye economy bearings, bimmerworld studs (ABS rings?) paid/shipped
19.dleavitt economy bearings, bimmerworld studs paid/shipped
20. Drezi economy bearings, bimmerworld studs paid/shipped
21. thegrapist economy bearings, bimmerworld studs paid/shipped
22. turbofan poverty bearings, bimmerworld studs. Interested in ABS rings but not strictly required right now.
23. moocow: poverty bearings, economy studs. paid/shipped
24. x_25: poverty bearings, economy studs. paid/shipped
25. Joker economy/poverty bearings, Bimmerworld Studs paid/shipped
26. GotBoost economy/poverty kit/bearings, Bimmerworld Studs, 2x spare poverty bearings paid/shipped
27. Stevos555 - SKF hubs (once they are in stock) and BM studs. paid/shipped
28. Reserved for track rat friends paid/shipped
29. Reserved for track rat friends paid/shipped
30. Reserved for track rat friends paid/shipped
31. paNX2K&SE-R: economy bearings, bimmerworld studs, abs rings
32. imclumzy: race kit Timken with Bimmerworld studs
33. Roedkill: economy bearings, bimmerworld studs
34. Fosters: economy bearings, Bimmerworld studs.
35. wombat57: all but bearings and studs - (we've pm'd) paid 6 24
36. TheBlack7: economy bearings, bimmerworld studs
37. thorzwar: Race Kit - Timken with Bimmerworld studs - 2x spare poverty bearings
38. upinthesky: Economy bearings, Bimmerworld sutds
39. Fosters (2nd set for track rat friends): economy bearings, Bimmerworld studs.
40. rdb138: economy bearings, Bimmerworld studs.
41.Mike N. economy bearings, bimmerworld studs
42.Terry Q. economy bearings, bimmerworld studs
43.Jerry C. economy bearings, bimmerworld studs
44. Gary S economy bearings, bimmerworld studs

45. Cxracer economy bearings, bimmerworld studs

Please add me as #45 for a set with economy bearings and bimmerworld studs. You can send me a PM on estimated schedule and how to pay.

navalhawkeye 06-25-2019 07:34 PM

Installed today. Awesome parts.

Struggling to get the studs torqued, though. Need to go buy a couple regular nuts to jam together. Not having any luck with my lug nuts.

chris101 06-25-2019 11:09 PM

Just to give an update to folks as we raced this past weekend- 3 races, won all 3 races in our class.. no failed hubs is a big win too! ...BUT we are going to upgrade to the Timkin bearings (in hindsight probably should have gone with this option to start with) ....nothing catastrophic at all --- just a bit more play than is considered factory tolerance in one of the hubs.. nothing that most people would probably notice but we constantly monitor stuff -- also in talking to a few of the E30 racers, they tell me they stick with the FAG bearings (which is stamped on the Timkin's btw) because they last FOREVER and only need to be replaced if you hit something. FAG Bearings are 'Made in Germany' instead of China so we got that going for us too! My advise to racers is go Timkin-- leave the 'economy' to the autocrossers and trackday folks who tend not to be as hard on their equipment.

stevos555 06-26-2019 09:23 AM

SKF was the original BMW supplier, while FAG was OEM replacement based on Bimmer forums.

Fermi 06-26-2019 04:15 PM

1. sonofthehill economy bearings with bimmerworld studs please. paid/shipped
2. bahurd economy bearings with bimmerworld studs please. paid/shipped
3. 99mx5 economy bearings with bimmerworld studs please.
4. TheBandit economy bearings with bimmerworld studs please.paid/shipped
5. BigEasy economy bearings with bimmerworld studs please. paid/shipped
6. Leboeuf economy bearings with bimmerworld studs please. paid/shipped
7. pcormier66 race kit timken with bimmerworld studs paid/shipped
8. portabull economy bearings with bimmerworld studs pleasepaid/shipped
9. Sierra_Bravo economy bearings with bimmerworld studs please.paid/shipped
10.Gee Emm - economy bearing bimmerworld studs paid/shipped
11. concealer404 economy bearing bimmerworld studs paid/shipped
12. Lokiel economy bearings with bimmerworld studs (assuming there will be a 2nd batch) paid/shipped
13. mweber economy bearing bimmerworld stud spaid/shipped
14. RASKAR economy bearings, bimmerworld studs paid/shipped
15. Maplewood economy bearings, bimmerworld studs paid/shipped
16. jspadaro economy bearings, bimmerworld studs paid/shipped
17. skipstr economy bearings, bimmerworld studs paid/shipped
18. navalhawkeye economy bearings, bimmerworld studs (ABS rings?) paid/shipped
19.dleavitt economy bearings, bimmerworld studs paid/shipped
20. Drezi economy bearings, bimmerworld studs paid/shipped
21. thegrapist economy bearings, bimmerworld studs paid/shipped
22. turbofan poverty bearings, bimmerworld studs. Interested in ABS rings but not strictly required right now.
23. moocow: poverty bearings, economy studs. paid/shipped
24. x_25: poverty bearings, economy studs. paid/shipped
25. Joker economy/poverty bearings, Bimmerworld Studs paid/shipped
26. GotBoost economy/poverty kit/bearings, Bimmerworld Studs, 2x spare poverty bearings paid/shipped
27. Stevos555 - SKF hubs (once they are in stock) and BM studs. paid/shipped
28. Reserved for track rat friends paid/shipped
29. Reserved for track rat friends paid/shipped
30. Reserved for track rat friends paid/shipped
31. paNX2K&SE-R: economy bearings, bimmerworld studs, abs rings
32. imclumzy: race kit Timken with Bimmerworld studs
33. Roedkill: economy bearings, bimmerworld studs
34. Fosters: economy bearings, Bimmerworld studs.
35. wombat57: all but bearings and studs - (we've pm'd) paid 6 24
36. TheBlack7: economy bearings, bimmerworld studs
37. thorzwar: Race Kit - Timken with Bimmerworld studs - 2x spare poverty bearings
38. upinthesky: Economy bearings, Bimmerworld sutds
39. Fosters (2nd set for track rat friends): economy bearings, Bimmerworld studs.
40. rdb138: economy bearings, Bimmerworld studs.
41.Mike N. economy bearings, bimmerworld studs
42.Terry Q. economy bearings, bimmerworld studs
43.Jerry C. economy bearings, bimmerworld studs
44. Gary S economy bearings, bimmerworld studs
45. Cxracer economy bearings, bimmerworld studs
46. Fermi economy bearings, bimmerworld studs

bean66 06-26-2019 08:15 PM

1. sonofthehill economy bearings with bimmerworld studs please. paid/shipped
2. bahurd economy bearings with bimmerworld studs please. paid/shipped
3. 99mx5 economy bearings with bimmerworld studs please.
4. TheBandit economy bearings with bimmerworld studs please.paid/shipped
5. BigEasy economy bearings with bimmerworld studs please. paid/shipped
6. Leboeuf economy bearings with bimmerworld studs please. paid/shipped
7. pcormier66 race kit timken with bimmerworld studs paid/shipped
8. portabull economy bearings with bimmerworld studs pleasepaid/shipped
9. Sierra_Bravo economy bearings with bimmerworld studs please.paid/shipped
10.Gee Emm - economy bearing bimmerworld studs paid/shipped
11. concealer404 economy bearing bimmerworld studs paid/shipped
12. Lokiel economy bearings with bimmerworld studs (assuming there will be a 2nd batch) paid/shipped
13. mweber economy bearing bimmerworld stud spaid/shipped
14. RASKAR economy bearings, bimmerworld studs paid/shipped
15. Maplewood economy bearings, bimmerworld studs paid/shipped
16. jspadaro economy bearings, bimmerworld studs paid/shipped
17. skipstr economy bearings, bimmerworld studs paid/shipped
18. navalhawkeye economy bearings, bimmerworld studs (ABS rings?) paid/shipped
19.dleavitt economy bearings, bimmerworld studs paid/shipped
20. Drezi economy bearings, bimmerworld studs paid/shipped
21. thegrapist economy bearings, bimmerworld studs paid/shipped
22. turbofan poverty bearings, bimmerworld studs. Interested in ABS rings but not strictly required right now.
23. moocow: poverty bearings, economy studs. paid/shipped
24. x_25: poverty bearings, economy studs. paid/shipped
25. Joker economy/poverty bearings, Bimmerworld Studs paid/shipped
26. GotBoost economy/poverty kit/bearings, Bimmerworld Studs, 2x spare poverty bearings paid/shipped
27. Stevos555 - SKF hubs (once they are in stock) and BM studs. paid/shipped
28. Reserved for track rat friends paid/shipped
29. Reserved for track rat friends paid/shipped
30. Reserved for track rat friends paid/shipped
31. paNX2K&SE-R: economy bearings, bimmerworld studs, abs rings
32. imclumzy: race kit Timken with Bimmerworld studs
33. Roedkill: economy bearings, bimmerworld studs
34. Fosters: economy bearings, Bimmerworld studs.
35. wombat57: all but bearings and studs - (we've pm'd) paid 6 24
36. TheBlack7: economy bearings, bimmerworld studs
37. thorzwar: Race Kit - Timken with Bimmerworld studs - 2x spare poverty bearings
38. upinthesky: Economy bearings, Bimmerworld sutds
39. Fosters (2nd set for track rat friends): economy bearings, Bimmerworld studs.
40. rdb138: economy bearings, Bimmerworld studs.
41.Mike N. economy bearings, bimmerworld studs
42.Terry Q. economy bearings, bimmerworld studs
43.Jerry C. economy bearings, bimmerworld studs
44. Gary S economy bearings, bimmerworld studs
45. Cxracer economy bearings, bimmerworld studs
46. Fermi economy bearings, bimmerworld studs
47. bean66, race kit, timken bearings, bimmerworld studs

alienmiata1 06-26-2019 10:05 PM

1. sonofthehill economy bearings with bimmerworld studs please. paid/shipped
2. bahurd economy bearings with bimmerworld studs please. paid/shipped
3. 99mx5 economy bearings with bimmerworld studs please.
4. TheBandit economy bearings with bimmerworld studs please.paid/shipped
5. BigEasy economy bearings with bimmerworld studs please. paid/shipped
6. Leboeuf economy bearings with bimmerworld studs please. paid/shipped
7. pcormier66 race kit timken with bimmerworld studs paid/shipped
8. portabull economy bearings with bimmerworld studs pleasepaid/shipped
9. Sierra_Bravo economy bearings with bimmerworld studs please.paid/shipped
10.Gee Emm - economy bearing bimmerworld studs paid/shipped
11. concealer404 economy bearing bimmerworld studs paid/shipped
12. Lokiel economy bearings with bimmerworld studs (assuming there will be a 2nd batch) paid/shipped
13. mweber economy bearing bimmerworld stud spaid/shipped
14. RASKAR economy bearings, bimmerworld studs paid/shipped
15. Maplewood economy bearings, bimmerworld studs paid/shipped
16. jspadaro economy bearings, bimmerworld studs paid/shipped
17. skipstr economy bearings, bimmerworld studs paid/shipped
18. navalhawkeye economy bearings, bimmerworld studs (ABS rings?) paid/shipped
19.dleavitt economy bearings, bimmerworld studs paid/shipped
20. Drezi economy bearings, bimmerworld studs paid/shipped
21. thegrapist economy bearings, bimmerworld studs paid/shipped
22. turbofan poverty bearings, bimmerworld studs. Interested in ABS rings but not strictly required right now.
23. moocow: poverty bearings, economy studs. paid/shipped
24. x_25: poverty bearings, economy studs. paid/shipped
25. Joker economy/poverty bearings, Bimmerworld Studs paid/shipped
26. GotBoost economy/poverty kit/bearings, Bimmerworld Studs, 2x spare poverty bearings paid/shipped
27. Stevos555 - SKF hubs (once they are in stock) and BM studs. paid/shipped
28. Reserved for track rat friends paid/shipped
29. Reserved for track rat friends paid/shipped
30. Reserved for track rat friends paid/shipped
31. paNX2K&SE-R: economy bearings, bimmerworld studs, abs rings
32. imclumzy: race kit Timken with Bimmerworld studs
33. Roedkill: economy bearings, bimmerworld studs
34. Fosters: economy bearings, Bimmerworld studs.
35. wombat57: all but bearings and studs - (we've pm'd) paid 6 24
36. TheBlack7: economy bearings, bimmerworld studs
37. thorzwar: Race Kit - Timken with Bimmerworld studs - 2x spare poverty bearings
38. upinthesky: Economy bearings, Bimmerworld sutds
39. Fosters (2nd set for track rat friends): economy bearings, Bimmerworld studs.
40. rdb138: economy bearings, Bimmerworld studs.
41.Mike N. economy bearings, bimmerworld studs
42.Terry Q. economy bearings, bimmerworld studs
43.Jerry C. economy bearings, bimmerworld studs
44. Gary S economy bearings, bimmerworld studs
45. Cxracer economy bearings, bimmerworld studs
46. Fermi economy bearings, bimmerworld studs
47. bean66, race kit, timken bearings, bimmerworld studs
48. Alienmiata1 economy bearings, bimmerworld studs abs rings

isleeptill12 07-01-2019 07:35 PM

PM'd you for a quote for the kit minus the bearings.

isleeptill12 07-03-2019 08:50 PM

1. sonofthehill economy bearings with bimmerworld studs please. paid/shipped
2. bahurd economy bearings with bimmerworld studs please. paid/shipped
3. 99mx5 economy bearings with bimmerworld studs please.
4. TheBandit economy bearings with bimmerworld studs please.paid/shipped
5. BigEasy economy bearings with bimmerworld studs please. paid/shipped
6. Leboeuf economy bearings with bimmerworld studs please. paid/shipped
7. pcormier66 race kit timken with bimmerworld studs paid/shipped
8. portabull economy bearings with bimmerworld studs pleasepaid/shipped
9. Sierra_Bravo economy bearings with bimmerworld studs please.paid/shipped
10.Gee Emm - economy bearing bimmerworld studs paid/shipped
11. concealer404 economy bearing bimmerworld studs paid/shipped
12. Lokiel economy bearings with bimmerworld studs (assuming there will be a 2nd batch) paid/shipped
13. mweber economy bearing bimmerworld stud spaid/shipped
14. RASKAR economy bearings, bimmerworld studs paid/shipped
15. Maplewood economy bearings, bimmerworld studs paid/shipped
16. jspadaro economy bearings, bimmerworld studs paid/shipped
17. skipstr economy bearings, bimmerworld studs paid/shipped
18. navalhawkeye economy bearings, bimmerworld studs (ABS rings?) paid/shipped
19.dleavitt economy bearings, bimmerworld studs paid/shipped
20. Drezi economy bearings, bimmerworld studs paid/shipped
21. thegrapist economy bearings, bimmerworld studs paid/shipped
22. turbofan poverty bearings, bimmerworld studs. Interested in ABS rings but not strictly required right now.
23. moocow: poverty bearings, economy studs. paid/shipped
24. x_25: poverty bearings, economy studs. paid/shipped
25. Joker economy/poverty bearings, Bimmerworld Studs paid/shipped
26. GotBoost economy/poverty kit/bearings, Bimmerworld Studs, 2x spare poverty bearings paid/shipped
27. Stevos555 - SKF hubs (once they are in stock) and BM studs. paid/shipped
28. Reserved for track rat friends paid/shipped
29. Reserved for track rat friends paid/shipped
30. Reserved for track rat friends paid/shipped
31. paNX2K&SE-R: economy bearings, bimmerworld studs, abs rings
32. imclumzy: race kit Timken with Bimmerworld studs
33. Roedkill: economy bearings, bimmerworld studs
34. Fosters: economy bearings, Bimmerworld studs.
35. wombat57: all but bearings and studs - (we've pm'd) paid 6 24
36. TheBlack7: economy bearings, bimmerworld studs
37. thorzwar: Race Kit - Timken with Bimmerworld studs - 2x spare poverty bearings
38. upinthesky: Economy bearings, Bimmerworld sutds
39. Fosters (2nd set for track rat friends): economy bearings, Bimmerworld studs.
40. rdb138: economy bearings, Bimmerworld studs.
41.Mike N. economy bearings, bimmerworld studs
42.Terry Q. economy bearings, bimmerworld studs
43.Jerry C. economy bearings, bimmerworld studs
44. Gary S economy bearings, bimmerworld studs
45. Cxracer economy bearings, bimmerworld studs
46. Fermi economy bearings, bimmerworld studs
47. bean66, race kit, timken bearings, bimmerworld studs
48. Alienmiata1 economy bearings, bimmerworld studs abs rings
49. isleeptill12 adapter kit + bimmerworld studs, no pre-machined wheel hub bearings

x_25 07-13-2019 06:54 PM

Installed my kit today. Stud instilation was easy as pie with a bench vice and the rest of the kit went on perfect. Only minor complaint is I can't use the closed end lug nuts I had with the studs, but I knew this was going to happen.

A+ kit, glad I got it.

Bronson M 07-18-2019 04:00 PM

Update for the rest of the folks on the list, finally got a commitment from the machine shop on the next batch of spacers. They will be in my hands by the 26th. I placed a large enough order that I got some preferential treatment so hopefully things will smooth out from here.

For the folks that are running them any track day feedback? I know Chris and her husband have been making laps and winning races on them. We have had two poverty bearing failures out of 60 that have shipped. One made some metal with no slop, and Chris had one come up with .004" slop but no other symptoms. We're not entirely sure if it didn't have that to begin with. At $35$ replacement cost I still believe these are the way to go if giving up a session isn't a big deal.

imclumzy 07-19-2019 09:34 AM

Great to hear that you got your supplier issues resolved Bronson, well done.

GotBoost 07-22-2019 10:24 AM


Originally Posted by Bronson M (Post 1542584)
For the folks that are running them any track day feedback? I know Chris and her husband have been making laps and winning races on them. We have had two poverty bearing failures out of 60 that have shipped. One made some metal with no slop, and Chris had one come up with .004" slop but no other symptoms. We're not entirely sure if it didn't have that to begin with. At $35$ replacement cost I still believe these are the way to go if giving up a session isn't a big deal.

Excellent. 6 full HPDE days (2 x 3 day weekends) and I'm digging these. Now we just need to con you into making replacements for the rears too! :-D

bahurd 07-22-2019 03:18 PM


Originally Posted by GotBoost (Post 1542961)
Now we just need to con you into making replacements for the rears too! :-D

MR2 rear conversion hubs for 90-05 Miata

GotBoost 07-22-2019 10:30 PM


Originally Posted by bahurd (Post 1542996)

Yeah I messaged them well over a month ago and didn't hear back (yet... hopefully?). I'll have to try reaching out again. Tried to order from them when I ordered the fronts from this thread.

yossi126 07-23-2019 05:44 AM


Originally Posted by GotBoost (Post 1542961)
Excellent. 6 full HPDE days (2 x 3 day weekends) and I'm digging these. Now we just need to con you into making replacements for the rears too! :-D

I also nagged him, he will be persuaded in the end!

99mx5 07-23-2019 11:18 AM

I recently received a response from Sean. Looks like they're back at it.

lbatalha 07-25-2019 11:31 AM

So to clarify, to install these (or to replace the bearings) one has to do ONLY the following:
- Press out E30 ABS rings
- Press in miata ABS rings (after Inner bore machining) to new E30 hubs
- Trim front of E30 hubs just so that the spacer/adapter fits (this can be done with handtools like a handsaw or angle grinder it seems?)
- Press in some form of stud, or just use bolts instead

Missing anything?

Bronson M 07-25-2019 11:37 AM


Originally Posted by lbatalha (Post 1543391)
So to clarify, to install these (or to replace the bearings) one has to do ONLY the following:
- Press out E30 ABS rings
- Press in miata ABS rings (after Inner bore machining) to new E30 hubs
- Trim front of E30 hubs just so that the spacer/adapter fits (this can be done with handtools like a handsaw or angle grinder it seems?)
- Press in some form of stud, or just use bolts instead

Missing anything?

Correct, that's all there is to it. The abs rings are not pressed tightly so a 2 or 3 jaw puller works fine if you're careful.

The trimming of the bearing is pretty simple but of course I supply pre machined bearings.

lbatalha 07-25-2019 11:44 AM


Originally Posted by Bronson M (Post 1543395)
Correct, that's all there is to it. The abs rings are not pressed tightly so a 2 or 3 jaw puller works fine if you're careful.

The trimming of the bearing is pretty simple but of course I supply pre machined bearings.

Awesome, seems doable at home with minimal effort.

I just noticed, the studs are not actually pressed in, they are simply threaded in?

How much would it cost to get these without the bearing itself, just all the hardware including bimmerworld studs?
Asking mostly for us Europeans, where customs and shipping makes it obviously cheaper to acquire the E30 hubs locally


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