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95Mmiata 05-23-2016 07:19 PM

Timing questions
 
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So i replaced my spark plugs the other day and I went to fix the tach problem on my miata(95M and COP) in MS and while the car was running, I was in the ignition setting options(I know that isnt the right place to be). I was looking thru and somehow changed something and all of sudden the car shut off and wont start now. Anyone have any idea what happened and why. I have changed alot of the settings to see if that was the problems

Car 95M Turbo with Fab9 Cop and MSPNP2

dr_boone 05-24-2016 12:47 PM

pull up an old tune and compare to the current tune. difference will be hilighted

deezums 05-24-2016 01:38 PM

Spark output should be "going high" and you should NOT be running with ignition fixed at ten degrees, change it to use the spark table.




95Mmiata 05-25-2016 08:26 PM

So I tried to put the old tunes in and still no luck. I checked all the fuses, checked for fuel, checked spark all good. Just nothing. Any other thoughts?

Matt Cramer 05-27-2016 10:54 AM

Please post a copy of the tune that's in there and a data log of an attempted start.

95Mmiata 07-24-2016 06:51 PM

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Here are a couple datalogs. Any ideas will help
Thanks Ross

Matt Cramer 07-26-2016 09:17 AM

It's not seeing RPM. It would help if you also posted the MSQ file so I can check if there are any settings that would prevent it from reading RPM. Also, check the CAS wiring.

95Mmiata 07-27-2016 05:37 PM

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Here you go. It is reading the Tach now.

Matt Cramer 07-28-2016 09:42 AM

Your coolant temperature is showing freezing. Check the sensor, wiring, and calibration.

95Mmiata 07-28-2016 11:11 AM


Originally Posted by Matt Cramer (Post 1349725)
Your coolant temperature is showing freezing. Check the sensor, wiring, and calibration.

I have an aftermarket coolant temp gauge, that is not running to the MS. I didn't have any issues before with this setup.

Matt Cramer 08-01-2016 10:47 AM


Originally Posted by 95Mmiata (Post 1349751)
I have an aftermarket coolant temp gauge, that is not running to the MS.

A separate temperature gauge does not give your MSPNP the ability to start the car without a properly functioning coolant temperature sensor signal.

95Mmiata 08-01-2016 06:32 PM

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OK so i have the sensor still in, that goes to the ECU. I hooked up the aftermarket gauge to where the temp sensor goes to the dash board. Ill check the temp sensor going to the ecu. Any other ideas?

95Mmiata 08-01-2016 07:51 PM

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Fixed coolant temp sensor. Here are the new datalogs.

Matt Cramer 08-02-2016 10:06 AM

OK, one problem down. Next check fuel pressure.

95Mmiata 08-03-2016 05:49 PM

Isn't that what the fuel load gauge show on the MS, good fuel pressure?

95Mmiata 08-03-2016 10:43 PM

72psi on crank

Matt Cramer 08-04-2016 09:26 AM

That's way too high.

acedeuce802 08-04-2016 09:51 AM

Are you confusing fuel load for fuel pressure? Fuel load is map pressure in a speed density setup.

95Mmiata 08-04-2016 10:44 AM


Originally Posted by acedeuce802 (Post 1351539)
Are you confusing fuel load for fuel pressure? Fuel load is map pressure in a speed density setup.

I probably am. Anyways i tested to the pressure


95Mmiata 08-04-2016 10:46 AM


Originally Posted by Matt Cramer (Post 1351535)
That's way too high.

Ok I tested the line that runs to the front of the fuel rail closet to the front of the car. Im assuming that it correct.

What do i need to do to fix the pressure?

95Mmiata 08-16-2016 03:34 PM

So did some more research and tested a couple things
-fuel pump works and is delivering fuel spark plugs smell like fuel.
-spark plug gap is good
-COP coils getting power
-went into MS and calibrated sensors, TPS, IAT ETC

yes the coils show them getting power with a multimeter. Not sure if i should pull them out and physical look and see if the spark plug is sparking.

Any other ideas would nice? Thanks guys

Matt Cramer 08-17-2016 10:48 AM

It's either a blocked return line or a failed regulator.

95Mmiata 08-21-2016 01:59 PM

My buddy came over to help out and the spark plugs are not sparking. I know there is power to the COPs. What would need to be changed in MS or check on the car to see if that is the issue?


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