web camshafts are these good..
02-01-2007, 11:23 PM
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if you have to cheat to win you're really not playing the same game. Comments like that will lose you a lot of friends and probably earn you a lot of protests in Solo...
In spec maybe a dry smile.
I remember our first event a young man introduced himself with his smooth southern accent and proceeded to tell us all the illegal engine internals he had...
then later we came to find he was leading the national points race
That's ok, you cheat and you drive like a hack and people will know it and you will get caught. It will cost you $$ to pay for tear down, it will cost you $$ in fines, it will cost you repuation and if you run a business that translates to more $$. In the end it's not worth it for a game, there's no money on the line.
These cheater cams are one item in a series of common "cheats" many SM drivers are guilty of, but the really great drivers aren't cheating at all. They're working their asses off with well prepared machines and tons and tons of seat time.
It could be argued though...the whole point keeping costs low...that for $250 in headwork I can have a motor that performs onpar with so-called "stock" sunbelt motors that are so ridiculously prepared but tear-down proof they cost about half what my entire car cost to put together.
And at one point 80% of the top 10 was running one.
Mike's been exposed at the national level, where there is a national amount of pride on the line. I suspect the talent dictates a bit less money being spent in the regional field I'll be in this year.
In spec maybe a dry smile.
I remember our first event a young man introduced himself with his smooth southern accent and proceeded to tell us all the illegal engine internals he had...
then later we came to find he was leading the national points race
That's ok, you cheat and you drive like a hack and people will know it and you will get caught. It will cost you $$ to pay for tear down, it will cost you $$ in fines, it will cost you repuation and if you run a business that translates to more $$. In the end it's not worth it for a game, there's no money on the line.
These cheater cams are one item in a series of common "cheats" many SM drivers are guilty of, but the really great drivers aren't cheating at all. They're working their asses off with well prepared machines and tons and tons of seat time.
It could be argued though...the whole point keeping costs low...that for $250 in headwork I can have a motor that performs onpar with so-called "stock" sunbelt motors that are so ridiculously prepared but tear-down proof they cost about half what my entire car cost to put together.
And at one point 80% of the top 10 was running one.
Mike's been exposed at the national level, where there is a national amount of pride on the line. I suspect the talent dictates a bit less money being spent in the regional field I'll be in this year.
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02-02-2007, 12:18 AM
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Blake,if I was gonna cheat.....do you really think I would tell anyone that I'm doing it and risk getting caught.
In motorsports everyone finds a way to cheat,either it be the weekend racer or the pros.Heck even those idiots on the show "PINKS" cheat.
In motorsports everyone finds a way to cheat,either it be the weekend racer or the pros.Heck even those idiots on the show "PINKS" cheat.
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02-02-2007, 01:53 AM
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In every sport there is cheating,either it be illegal performance enhancements in motor racing or faking injuries to favor your team in soccer,NHL,NBA or NFL,**** they even cheat in tennis and golf.Hell even profesional body builders cheat(steroids)to win.
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02-02-2007, 03:29 AM
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Excellent drivers who cheat:
Richard Petty, ran a motor 24 inches over the limit, ran illegal tires
Darrell Waltrip, lightened his car past the limit, strapped weight to his inspection set of wheels, would pit early in the race to get "regular" wheels. Also would put 60-70 lbs of lead in his inspection helmet, which would always have to be replaced because of "radio issues" before the race
Jimmy Johnson, connected his rear window to the track bar, so a track bar adjustment would change the angle of the window to deflect air over the rear spoiler
Jeff Gordon, illegal intake mani
Jeremy Mayfield, fuel additives
Jeremy Mayfield, roof line too low
Kurt Busch, failed template tests
These are just a few instances of people who were caught, and I could remember. There were practically no penalties sactioned against any of the cheaters.
Rumoured cheats that noone will specifically fess up to:
Using NOS in qualifying, hiding NOS equipment in driver's suit
Radio controlled actuators to lower spoiler angle during a race
Using magnets to stretch the fuel cell to hold more gas
Intentionally dropping debris on the track to avoid being lapped
Hollow roll bars filled with shot, dumped out during the course of a raise
Hollow roll bars filled with fuel
Richard Petty, ran a motor 24 inches over the limit, ran illegal tires
Darrell Waltrip, lightened his car past the limit, strapped weight to his inspection set of wheels, would pit early in the race to get "regular" wheels. Also would put 60-70 lbs of lead in his inspection helmet, which would always have to be replaced because of "radio issues" before the race
Jimmy Johnson, connected his rear window to the track bar, so a track bar adjustment would change the angle of the window to deflect air over the rear spoiler
Jeff Gordon, illegal intake mani
Jeremy Mayfield, fuel additives
Jeremy Mayfield, roof line too low
Kurt Busch, failed template tests
These are just a few instances of people who were caught, and I could remember. There were practically no penalties sactioned against any of the cheaters.
Rumoured cheats that noone will specifically fess up to:
Using NOS in qualifying, hiding NOS equipment in driver's suit
Radio controlled actuators to lower spoiler angle during a race
Using magnets to stretch the fuel cell to hold more gas
Intentionally dropping debris on the track to avoid being lapped
Hollow roll bars filled with shot, dumped out during the course of a raise
Hollow roll bars filled with fuel
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02-02-2007, 09:07 AM
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Excellent drivers who cheat:
Richard Petty, ran a motor 24 inches over the limit, ran illegal tires
Darrell Waltrip, lightened his car past the limit, strapped weight to his inspection set of wheels, would pit early in the race to get "regular" wheels. Also would put 60-70 lbs of lead in his inspection helmet, which would always have to be replaced because of "radio issues" before the race
Jimmy Johnson, connected his rear window to the track bar, so a track bar adjustment would change the angle of the window to deflect air over the rear spoiler
Jeff Gordon, illegal intake mani
Jeremy Mayfield, fuel additives
Jeremy Mayfield, roof line too low
Kurt Busch, failed template tests
These are just a few instances of people who were caught, and I could remember. There were practically no penalties sactioned against any of the cheaters.
Rumoured cheats that noone will specifically fess up to:
Using NOS in qualifying, hiding NOS equipment in driver's suit
Radio controlled actuators to lower spoiler angle during a race
Using magnets to stretch the fuel cell to hold more gas
Intentionally dropping debris on the track to avoid being lapped
Hollow roll bars filled with shot, dumped out during the course of a raise
Hollow roll bars filled with fuel
Richard Petty, ran a motor 24 inches over the limit, ran illegal tires
Darrell Waltrip, lightened his car past the limit, strapped weight to his inspection set of wheels, would pit early in the race to get "regular" wheels. Also would put 60-70 lbs of lead in his inspection helmet, which would always have to be replaced because of "radio issues" before the race
Jimmy Johnson, connected his rear window to the track bar, so a track bar adjustment would change the angle of the window to deflect air over the rear spoiler
Jeff Gordon, illegal intake mani
Jeremy Mayfield, fuel additives
Jeremy Mayfield, roof line too low
Kurt Busch, failed template tests
These are just a few instances of people who were caught, and I could remember. There were practically no penalties sactioned against any of the cheaters.
Rumoured cheats that noone will specifically fess up to:
Using NOS in qualifying, hiding NOS equipment in driver's suit
Radio controlled actuators to lower spoiler angle during a race
Using magnets to stretch the fuel cell to hold more gas
Intentionally dropping debris on the track to avoid being lapped
Hollow roll bars filled with shot, dumped out during the course of a raise
Hollow roll bars filled with fuel
bunch of dirty moonshiners.
guys just got caught at the runoffs with a roll cage made almost entirely with exhaust tubing instead of the spec'd steel
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