BEGi bypass valve VTA
Soooo, this may be a little rice buuuuutttt, i have my bypass valve venting to atmosphere. I do have the mspnp so im map based. Are there any downsides to it? I mean, it does have air blowing out of it at idle.
it sounds pretty sweet though. |
If your worried about the engine sucking in dirty air from the BOV,just put a small K&N filter on it.
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Originally Posted by spike
(Post 229398)
If your worried about the engine sucking in dirty air from the BOV,just put a small K&N filter on it.
i need to see someone with that, |
Originally Posted by spike
(Post 229398)
If your worried about the engine sucking in dirty air from the BOV,just put a small K&N filter on it.
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Originally Posted by urgaynknowit
(Post 229403)
are you serious?
i need to see someone with that, FM use to supply the small K&N filters for the BOV as part of the turbo kits. |
Originally Posted by spike
(Post 229410)
Yes I am serious.
FM use to supply the small K&N filters for the BOV as part of the turbo kits. |
id put a filter on it
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Chances are it'll leak at idle and suck in unfiltered air.
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Originally Posted by jayc72
(Post 229416)
Chances are it'll leak at idle and suck in unfiltered air.
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Originally Posted by wes65
(Post 229414)
but if it blows air out, whats the worry?
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Originally Posted by wes65
(Post 229417)
at idle it is open, but air is blowing out of it.
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the bov is right before the TB. and yes, when the throttle is closed, there is vacuum that opens the valve and the turbo is blowing air through it.
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This my just be me being stupid, but you might just be leaking mad boost, i did that to my aunts evo because she wanted the sound and then she complained about it being slow, tested it with a camera inside the engine bay(a bit daft i know, but cool video, ill upload it some day), sho'nuff it was VOMITNG boost like it was going out of style. i know some are bypass and some are blow off but if it came intended to be used as a bypass, i dun think u can use it vice versa
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Originally Posted by TeamPLUR
(Post 229426)
This my just be me being stupid, but you might just be leaking mad boost, i did that to my aunts evo because she wanted the sound and then she complained about it being slow, tested it with a camera inside the engine bay(a bit daft i know, but cool video, ill upload it some day), sho'nuff it was VOMITNG boost like it was going out of style. i know some are bypass and some are blow off but if it came intended to be used as a bypass, i dun think u can use it vice versa
This my only is me that stupid is, but you crazy increase only are able leak, did I that to my tantesevo because they the sound wants and then they concerning complained that, tested it with a camera within the crazy motorbay(a beetje I know, but cool video slow am, sick upload one or other day), sho'nuff were increase VOMITNG if it assumed style. I weet what is traffic diversion and what are blow away but if it came planned for are used since a traffic diversion thinks, I thinly you can vice-versa using God it's late. I'm getting delirious. |
Originally Posted by TeamPLUR
(Post 229426)
This my just be me being stupid, but you might just be leaking mad boost, i did that to my aunts evo because she wanted the sound and then she complained about it being slow, tested it with a camera inside the engine bay(a bit daft i know, but cool video, ill upload it some day), sho'nuff it was VOMITNG boost like it was going out of style. i know some are bypass and some are blow off but if it came intended to be used as a bypass, i dun think u can use it vice versa
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You wouldn't happen to have a teeny tiny turbo with an AbsurdFlow exhaust that makes boost at idle would you?
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i have a gt2860rs with stock exhaust(i know stock exhaust right, im broke lol)
edit: gt2860rs |
Your turbo isn't pushing anything at idle, the engine is sucking. Creating vacuum ....
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hmm... i think i may see the problem here, i didnt have the idle air tube hooked up, that would mean that the motor was not sucking idle air through the piping but from outside, therefore making a little bit of positive flow in the piping. That also means it was sucking unfiltered air.
That would make me feel better i KNOW that there was air blowing out of the bypass valve. |
But you're sucking in unfiltered air through your idle air tube...
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Originally Posted by wes65
(Post 229436)
hmm... i think i may see the problem here, i didnt have the idle air tube hooked up, that would mean that the motor was not sucking idle air through the piping but from outside, therefore making a little bit of positive flow in the piping. That also means it was sucking unfiltered air.
That would make me feel better i KNOW that there was air blowing out of the bypass valve. |
Thank you for the gay-ality check
ive had two root canals done today, and im more than slightly impaired the only thing that comes to my head for that stupidity is 'SIR!, NO EXCUSE, SIR' |
Its possible for a turbo to pressurize the intake piping and intercooler, if equipped, against a closed throttle-plate but there will most likely be low load situations when this isn't the case.
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I think it should be open.
There is a spring that sits atop the valve and presses down to keep it shut. The MAP signal pushes in the same direction as the spring, and competes against the pressure in the charge pipe. If charge pressure > spring + map, the upward force wins and the valve opens. If charge pressure = map (open Throttle), the is charge pressure below the valve is canceled by the map signal atop and the spring keeps it shut. At idle the throttle is closed, the turbine is spinning, and the MAP signal is a strong vacuum. It's no surprise the valve is open. Even with a fairly large turbo (certainly by most of your standards: a holset hy35), I have noticed it moving air at idle. On a 1.8 idling at about 800rpm I've placed my hand in front of my compressor outlet, heard the air fight to pass through the suddenly disconnected charged pipe (this one happened a lot), and placed a finger in front of the BOV. Things we all can do, right? |
GOD DAMN stupid fucking rash of NOOBS today opening up 3 week old posts for no fucking reason!!!
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Sam, I read Opek's post and immediately thought of your response to that other guy yesterday.
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We all can confuse the current board and our search, especially when unrelated threads like this sneak in.
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