Bell or FM I read back several pages.
11-16-2011, 09:57 PM
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Bell or FM I read back several pages.
The car will be used for autocross and time attack. It will be raced... I've been an SCCA Chief of Tech for 7 years now. I trophied SSM locally with a 90 Miata @ 10psi years ago.
I'm looking for 200 to 250 rwhp from 94 "A".
If I was spending your money, what would you do?
I'm looking for 200 to 250 rwhp from 94 "A".
If I was spending your money, what would you do?
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11-16-2011, 10:12 PM
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Honestly I like the FM cast manifold and downpipe, but I am pretty against the Hydra ECU. A guy I knew had it in his 99 and it was pretty horrible. So if you want a complete out of box solution, I'd probably go with Begi. Otherwise, I'd do this: Get the FM cast mani & downpipe, get a turbo yourself (2560 would be fine), megasquirt, 440cc injectors, 2.5" exhaust, front mount intercooler. Profit.
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11-16-2011, 10:24 PM
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To be honest, both are good companies.
200 HP is easily achievable with one of the higher-end kits from either. 250 HP is within the realm of reason in terms of the hardware you'll get from either, but know that this is definitely encroaching upon "danger zone" territory for both the stock 5-speed transmission and the stock connecting rods.
200 HP is easily achievable with one of the higher-end kits from either. 250 HP is within the realm of reason in terms of the hardware you'll get from either, but know that this is definitely encroaching upon "danger zone" territory for both the stock 5-speed transmission and the stock connecting rods.
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11-17-2011, 09:50 AM
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I like FM. You pay a bit more sometimes, but their customer service is beyond amazing. I spent $10 a few weeks ago and still got a call from them asking if the part was performing as I expected. I've had two FM kits on two seperate miatas and they are quality, and made good power.
That being said, ARTech makes some amazing pieces too.
No expeirence from BEGi really.
If it was my money, I'd go FM.
That being said, ARTech makes some amazing pieces too.
No expeirence from BEGi really.
If it was my money, I'd go FM.
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11-17-2011, 11:48 AM
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I like FM. You pay a bit more sometimes, but their customer service is beyond amazing. I spent $10 a few weeks ago and still got a call from them asking if the part was performing as I expected. I've had two FM kits on two seperate miatas and they are quality, and made good power.
That being said, ARTech makes some amazing pieces too.
No expeirence from BEGi really.
If it was my money, I'd go FM.
That being said, ARTech makes some amazing pieces too.
No expeirence from BEGi really.
If it was my money, I'd go FM.
I have nothing but good things to say about FM's customer service.
If i were to do it again i would get a FM kit
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11-17-2011, 05:15 PM
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I did get a new turbine housing from BEGi. Worked directly with Stephanie. Pretty good experience for my only time dealing with them. I've been dealing with FM since getting my car 4 years ago and everytime I talk to anyone at FM, I just want to hug all of them.
Though the ARTech and Absurtflow products are pure sex and I'm sure their performance is pure win. I'd switch if I had money laying around "just to do something" just based on looks.
Though the ARTech and Absurtflow products are pure sex and I'm sure their performance is pure win. I'd switch if I had money laying around "just to do something" just based on looks.
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11-30-2011, 06:01 PM
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As do I. Just make sure to upgrade to inconel studs.
I had the manifold bolts back out a few times on the 240, even with those odd washers that you bent up to keep the nut from backing out.
Looks like a FM for me... for now. Thanks folks.
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12-27-2011, 03:03 AM
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Are FM or begi kits are safe for track use with iconel studs and exhaust braces at around 200whp? I am lazy. Reliability is a must.
I have a T25 laying around that needs to spool again.
I have a T25 laying around that needs to spool again.
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12-28-2011, 09:04 AM
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Safe for one person may not be for another. A lot of people can get away with regular studs, but the ones that push their cars, need inconel or v-band. If I was building a track car with either kit, I would use Inconel studs without a doubt. You can do 200whp pretty safely on a stock 1.8 motor with a good tune at the track, so you would just need to get cooling/brakes/suspension tackled.
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