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drftem 06-07-2007 10:26 AM

boost drop off????
 
ok i hit 9psi and then around 5500 it slowly drops back to like 7psi at around red line. is that normal or do i need a helper spring?????

m2cupcar 06-07-2007 10:52 AM

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Assuming you're using an MBC or straight up wg can - a helper spring can resolve some of that. It helps to make it adjustable (threaded rod) so you can make changes to the spring tension.

Braineack 06-07-2007 10:55 AM

yep normal, welcome to the GReddy kit.

FHS 06-07-2007 11:43 AM

Has anybody just replaced the can? I do have the helper spring and all that, but sheesh.

Joe Perez 06-07-2007 12:28 PM

I've recently been fighting this same battle myself, in the quest for a nice, consistant 14 PSI or so. With the MBC alone, my setup typically will spike to 15 and then settle down to maybe 11 or 12. Ridiculous.

I've done a preliminary helper spring setup, but all I seem to have accomplished thus far is to move the spike upwards a bit.

I used what I felt was a moderatly sized spring, not wanting to go too tight right outta the gate. I can't really say that it helped much- I'm still spiking... Base boost (with the MBC bypassed) went from about 5.5 PSI to 9 PSI. Relatively speaking, are others using stronger springs than this?

jayc72 06-07-2007 12:51 PM

My helper puts my unassisted boost to abou 9psi as well.

m2cupcar 06-07-2007 01:13 PM

I haven't gotten anything close to flat. I was seeing ~2psi fall after peak boost. The helper spring reduced that to just over 1psi. :dunno:
dotted line = boost

amak87 09-22-2011 06:17 PM

Hook the mbc feed line to the coldside of the intercooler..

18psi 09-22-2011 06:44 PM

took you 2 years to post your 1st post
in a 4 year old thread.

Should we expect the next post by 2017?

dustinb 09-22-2011 09:29 PM


Originally Posted by amak87 (Post 774580)
Hook the mbc feed line to the coldside of the intercooler..

lol, how is this post even possible?

18psi 09-22-2011 09:38 PM

he will answer your question in 4 years

amak87 09-23-2011 12:55 AM

I joined while back helping my buddy with his 91 turbo. I sold my evo 9 went with a gsxr 600 now im rocking my turbo miata.. And how can you hook up the mbc feed to the coldside of the intercooler? Just drill and tap for a 1/8npt barb in the piping after the intercoolerm before the TB.. I did it a while back and got another 1.5psi till redline..

Idk why you guys just gotta hack on someone just cuz they havent posted yet. Im not a newb. Lol ive been boostin for 5 years.. And tuning evos for the past 3.. Lets keep on topic from now on ;)

amak87 09-23-2011 12:55 AM

I joined while back helping my buddy with his 91 turbo. I sold my evo 9 went with a gsxr 600 now im rocking my turbo miata.. And how can you hook up the mbc feed to the coldside of the intercooler? Just drill and tap for a 1/8npt barb in the piping after the intercoolerm before the TB.. I did it a while back and got another 1.5psi till redline..

Idk why you guys just gotta hack on someone just cuz they havent posted yet. Im not a newb. Lol ive been boostin for 5 years.. And tuning evos for the past 3.. Lets keep on topic from now on ;)

18psi 09-23-2011 12:56 AM

3 years oh shit you must be a tuning legend.
Everyone tunes cars here. literally like 90% of the boosted people here. tuning an evo with ecuflash/evoscan is fucking cake. I'm serious.

Joe Perez 09-23-2011 12:57 AM


Originally Posted by amak87 (Post 774781)
Idk why you guys just gotta hack on someone just cuz they havent posted yet.

Welcome to the jungle. :D

amak87 09-23-2011 12:59 AM

OAAlright man.,i never said I was the shit. Lol calm down its just the internet

amak87 09-23-2011 01:04 AM

Lol funny stuff

nitrodann 09-23-2011 01:48 AM

My girlfriend tunes all my cruise and 3/4 throttle cells while I drive to the shops. So...Yah.

Dann

dustinb 09-23-2011 11:57 PM


Originally Posted by amak87 (Post 774789)
Lol funny stuff

Amak87, I think the thing that is most surprising is you pick a random thread, that's been dead for almost 5 years, and post a random comment in it. It's sort of like digging up a body to have sex with it, except everyone can see you doing it.

amak87 09-24-2011 04:38 PM

Haha ya bro... Just like raping a dead body. Spot on with that analogy.. Lol

HeresJohnny 02-23-2016 02:19 PM

I've just dug the dead body up myself and had a go, not good, I don't recommend it.

Anyway, seriously, got similar issues and found this thread, I know its old but its on topic.
4th gear WOT pull spools ok to 10psi at 3250rpm then drops off to 8.5psi at 4350rpm then picks up again to 10.5psi at 5750rpm. Did you guys still think its likely a wastgate creep ?

Corky Bell 03-30-2016 09:23 AM

try adding .25 inch to the length of the pivot arm on the wastegate's valve shaft.

corky

HeresJohnny 03-30-2016 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Corky Bell (Post 1319583)
try adding .25 inch to the length of the pivot arm on the wastegate's valve shaft.

corky

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1459359452<br >

Sorry not great with the tech terms, by pivot arm do you mean the arm coming off the spring? Lengthen it ?
I had this set with a little pre load. If I lengthen it the wastgate sounds lose with no load from the spring ?

deezums 03-30-2016 02:05 PM

He means make the arm on the turbo wastegate longer, then preload the can threaded shaft to match.

Will increase the torque applied to the wastegate, hopefully keeping it from opening before it's ready.

HeresJohnny 03-30-2016 03:29 PM


Originally Posted by deezums (Post 1319656)
He means make the arm on the turbo wastegate longer, then preload the can threaded shaft to match.

Will increase the torque applied to the wastegate, hopefully keeping it from opening before it's ready.

Ah ok, thanks. Makes sense 👍

Girz0r 03-30-2016 03:50 PM

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It looks like you're missing a c clip :dunno:

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HeresJohnny 03-30-2016 04:14 PM


Originally Posted by Girz0r (Post 1319678)
It looks like you're missing a c clip :dunno:

http://i1251.photobucket.com/albums/...ightening.jpg?

Well spotted, but it was just after I'd tried unwinding the arm before I re-assembled and realised it wasn't the right thing to do as the WG preload had gone. It's back to where it was now. Will double check my preload and route EBC signal from after the IC but before the TB, thanks very much for your help. Much appreciated 👍


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