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blue89turbo 03-15-2007 10:46 AM

heat blanket questions
 
Hey guys,

Just wondering, about the heat issues with the Greddy.

I would like to buy some of that heat blanket type of stuff.
What type do you guys suggest?

I am thinking of covering everything in that area. Will the hood underside be ok?

Thanks again

Braineack 03-15-2007 10:50 AM

the easiest & cheapest thing is the GReddy heat shield made by FM.

Keinayo and i believe one other are selling one in the for sale section.

Other than that, insulate what you don't want to get hot, so wrap the heater lines, brake lines, etc. in heat tape.

Fergus 03-15-2007 01:24 PM

I agree, no need to get a blanket.
All I have is the heat shield and some reflector tape covering the water bottle for the windscreen (my steering wheel is on the other side BTW).

Newbsauce 03-15-2007 02:15 PM

If your upgrading to the TurboTony downpipe, wrap the coolant line in the back (maybe its heater). When I pulled my greddy setup I saw that the extreme heat was kind of wearing away at it. There's a post of all the crap you should be wrapping up somewhere. I think I got my wrap at AutoBarn online and it was actually fairly cheap.

Note: Use zipties... do NOT rely on the adhesive crap. What you'll find is that the material is rated to like 3k degrees or something absurd, but the adhesive is rated to like 500 degrees..so it just melts.

Braineack 03-15-2007 02:18 PM

are you refering to my heat tape?

clshrckr 03-15-2007 04:08 PM

wont the zip ties melt?

Braineack 03-15-2007 04:10 PM

the only zip tie ive ever melted was because i sat it on the manifold for a minute after driving.


btw: http://forum.miata.net/vb/showpost.p...8&postcount=11

Ben 03-15-2007 04:13 PM

you could always use a few worm clamps if you're concerned about the zips.

the one place where I see people use zip ties that drives me nuts is holding an aftermarket fuel pump onto the pump/float assembly.

olderguy 03-15-2007 04:13 PM

You can get stainless zipties

PAT! 03-15-2007 04:16 PM

http://www.mesamarine.com/ATP%20Pics.htm#Pics

Marine Turbo blankets.

I did some tuning about 6 years ago on a T66 Supra with one of these things, you could rest your hand on the blanket during a pass on the dyno. Freaking awesome.

Also here:
http://www.htcsafetyproducts.com.au/insulation.htm

Ben 03-15-2007 04:20 PM

you can, but they're $3-4 each vs $.60 for a worm clamp.

blue89turbo 03-19-2007 08:16 PM

Do you guys think it is worth getting the FM heatshield?

spike 03-19-2007 09:32 PM


Originally Posted by blue89turbo (Post 94261)
Do you guys think it is worth getting the FM heatshield?

^ yes.

VRTSid 03-19-2007 10:15 PM

I think if you canget any premade heatshield that fits its worth it...

if you want to see what amature hands with tinsnips/rivits/alloy sheet/heat shield can do for about 30$.
http://jazz.sdsc.edu/photo/pictures/...s_DSCN2428.JPG
it works well enough for me to put my hand on (and only feel heat on the rivits) on 0 boost runs... Im sure it will work 80% so I shielded everything I was worried about as well.

rmcelwee 03-19-2007 10:39 PM


Originally Posted by VRTSid (Post 94299)
I think if you canget any premade heatshield that fits its worth it...

if you want to see what amature hands with tinsnips/rivits/alloy sheet/heat shield can do for about 30$.
http://jazz.sdsc.edu/photo/picturesV...s_DSCN2428.JPG

Yes, I want to see it - but the pic wouldn't load for me. Had to go to
http://jazz.sdsc.edu/photo/pictures/...y/VRTWORK/sid/ and then click on turbo installed, res, res_dscn2428.jpg. Hopefully this will help others who are trying to get there.

Anyway, it looks good. I've got to try to build one sometime. How many places did you attach it? Where did you get the metal (not sure where to source stuff like that) and how thick is it?

firedog25 03-20-2007 02:09 AM

I run a combo of stainless zipties from Thermotec and little worm drive clamps. I bought a box of those zipties for a pretty low price from Autobarn.

Exhondaman 03-20-2007 09:03 AM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 92880)
the only zip tie ive ever melted was because i sat it on the manifold for a minute after driving.


btw: http://forum.miata.net/vb/showpost.p...8&postcount=11

Interesting, so what is Corky's reasoning for such strong statements? I worked on F-14s in the NAVY and I'll tell you what, it's seems more efficient to wrap hot ducts then to shield sensitive electronics. Assuming his reasoning is that the heat will break down the metals faster, I still think it's better then a potential engine fire hazard. Correct me if I don't see the light.

Braineack 03-20-2007 09:33 AM

since it's very effective to just wrap a few lines and the master, it's all good.

corky has seen DPs and such literally fall apart in his hands with use. others have not, but i tend to give him the benefit of the doubt.

FWIW, i made a cheap and easy shield with 16g SS for about $20. protects my master and intake and works fine.

http://www.rev2red.com/images/cars/begidone004.JPG

blue89turbo 03-20-2007 02:24 PM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 94380)
since it's very effective to just wrap a few lines and the master, it's all good.

corky has seen DPs and such literally fall apart in his hands with use. others have not, but i tend to give him the benefit of the doubt.

FWIW, i made a cheap and easy shield with 16g SS for about $20. protects my master and intake and works fine.

http://www.rev2red.com/images/cars/begidone004.JPG

Hey Braineack,

I like the heat shield that you have, I actually did basically the exact same thing on my turbo supra that i used to own. Is the heat an issue at all on the hood (paint) at all?

I may do that same thing as you (again) You say that you did wrap some pipes and hoses etc?

spike 03-20-2007 02:44 PM

Your best bet is to just get the Greddy heatshield from FM.It's a really well made piece that fits nice and you want have to monkey around in making one yourself.

VRTSid 03-20-2007 10:36 PM


Originally Posted by rmcelwee (Post 94308)
Yes, I want to see it - but the pic wouldn't load for me. Had to go to
http://jazz.sdsc.edu/photo/pictures/...y/VRTWORK/sid/ and then click on turbo installed, res, res_dscn2428.jpg. Hopefully this will help others who are trying to get there.

Anyway, it looks good. I've got to try to build one sometime. How many places did you attach it? Where did you get the metal (not sure where to source stuff like that) and how thick is it?

its attached in 2 places, 1 original airbox mount and to the turbo itself. its riveted into a pyramid shape so its actually very ridged and works good. it actually wraps around the back of the downpipe past where the water lines go. its aluminum sheet, 16ga maybe (between 1/16-1/32" maybe), I honestly would have to look. its backed with that adhesive heat shield tape stuff.

I got the sheet metal at a local hardware store, you can buy it at prolly any metal supply shop, or maybe even dixieline/ace or semi industrial hardware stores. and I got the heat shield tape at Napa.


fixed link btw, I deleted a "/" on accident

beasty555 03-21-2007 04:37 PM

My DIY cost me $25. Homedepot sells decent sized sheets of aluminum. There is actually enough to make two heatshields. Gotta have metal snips and rivet tool if you wanna make it look nice. I was contemplating on buying one, but making one yourself was much more fun. I'll take pics of mine today.

VRTSid 03-21-2007 07:06 PM

mine was 40$ because it was 20$ for the adhesive heat shield stuff.
i made my heat shield and I made a starter heat shield for my friends corolla and some other stuff to. I still have enough to make some more stuff.


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