i beat an sti
. Every time i hear one they always sound broken in stead of unique.
05-04-2008, 10:23 PM
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no way really? hahahah thats funny.. i didnt know that...doesnt it have alot to do with the unequal length headers our cars have?
i honestly love the sound of a boxer 4, but know many people that hate it.....its either one or the other love it or hate it, and i definitely wont argue my opinion: its just that, and opinion. but i think they sound DAMN good
i honestly love the sound of a boxer 4, but know many people that hate it.....its either one or the other love it or hate it, and i definitely wont argue my opinion: its just that, and opinion. but i think they sound DAMN good
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05-04-2008, 10:51 PM
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phew,
for the record,
i love Subaru's , i wanted a wrx for a long long time, but stumbled over this miata
most of my friends drive wrx's, most with over 400 at the wheels
i love my miata, and im quite happy with its mods and its ability to take stock sti's and evo's
a friend of mine has this lc1 thing that hooks to my exhaust and my air fuels are 11.5 to 12.4 ,,,,,, its really rich down low, and leans out toward the top, but its not too unsafe yet
im buying a duel feed, along with engine management, as soon as i procure funds
18psi - ur rex is the ****
arkmage - the wrx tranny sucks dick, all of my friends have blown theirs, one currently is rocking a rwd setup with 520 at the rear wheels (it doesnt move....)
fireindc - thank you
zoom2zoom - i dislike the look of any Subaru 2002+
and i admit, driving stupid is safer at the track, not the street, but i just had to find out where i stood, granted, not the smartest idea to test it in the rain.
thanx for the good and the bad comments, all are welcome,
i am now lowering the boost to around 5psi because my car dislikes 10,
the rear end is on its way out, and i need to conserve.
ive had the car since september, and 90% of work was done outside in the snow...
im happy with my progress but i have an idea for this winter, im going to store the miata, buy a truck, and i will be building a 5.0 miata, a friend of mine is doing the same exact thing
so as soon as we get started, we will let you guys know, we have two shells right now
and we are sourcing out the motors, and the kit to drop them in
anyhoo, i credit anything and everything regarding my miata, to this website
thats my rant, take it or leave it 11.gif
for the record,
i love Subaru's , i wanted a wrx for a long long time, but stumbled over this miata
most of my friends drive wrx's, most with over 400 at the wheels
i love my miata, and im quite happy with its mods and its ability to take stock sti's and evo's
a friend of mine has this lc1 thing that hooks to my exhaust and my air fuels are 11.5 to 12.4 ,,,,,, its really rich down low, and leans out toward the top, but its not too unsafe yet
im buying a duel feed, along with engine management, as soon as i procure funds
18psi - ur rex is the ****
arkmage - the wrx tranny sucks dick, all of my friends have blown theirs, one currently is rocking a rwd setup with 520 at the rear wheels (it doesnt move....)
fireindc - thank you
zoom2zoom - i dislike the look of any Subaru 2002+
and i admit, driving stupid is safer at the track, not the street, but i just had to find out where i stood, granted, not the smartest idea to test it in the rain.
thanx for the good and the bad comments, all are welcome,
i am now lowering the boost to around 5psi because my car dislikes 10,
the rear end is on its way out, and i need to conserve.
ive had the car since september, and 90% of work was done outside in the snow...
im happy with my progress but i have an idea for this winter, im going to store the miata, buy a truck, and i will be building a 5.0 miata, a friend of mine is doing the same exact thing
so as soon as we get started, we will let you guys know, we have two shells right now
and we are sourcing out the motors, and the kit to drop them in
anyhoo, i credit anything and everything regarding my miata, to this website
thats my rant, take it or leave it 11.gif
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05-05-2008, 12:31 AM
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Sic man.
It's sad, I'm not going to be faster than my G/Fs car after my DIY.
Her car is an Sti w/ an '07 sti turbo, tune, exhaust, front mount, tein coilovers with EDFC, Borla 3 inch, ARP headstuds, and a bunch of other things I'm missing. Bash on Sti's all you want, but I think they are bad ***.
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It's sad, I'm not going to be faster than my G/Fs car after my DIY.
Her car is an Sti w/ an '07 sti turbo, tune, exhaust, front mount, tein coilovers with EDFC, Borla 3 inch, ARP headstuds, and a bunch of other things I'm missing. Bash on Sti's all you want, but I think they are bad ***.
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05-05-2008, 01:00 AM
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ps: i guess all the people on here that boosted their miatas for a fraction of the cost of a mazdaspeed miata are all "mazdaspeed miata" wannabe's huh?
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05-05-2008, 01:45 AM
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we need a pic of ur girl, since her car is hot, she has to be, if shes not, ban cheeky-smiley-006.gif
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05-05-2008, 02:00 AM
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I remember when I first saw the GDB and couldn't believe how ugly I thought it was. After seeing it at the ATL auto show I warmed up to it. Never liked the 04/05 redesign and I hated the 06-07 for awhile and now I think its looks quite good. Same with the 08, I now think it ranks up there with the GC.
I'm a former Suby guy too and a good cat and a tune on an STI will smoke %90 of the Miatas on the board from a light or rolling. They're just stupid easy to make power on and the stock turbo isn't as bad as it was once thought to be. Lots of impressive passes on the stock turbo.
I'll agree with pretty much everything 18psi said except for the RA gearset (not worth the 1500, and people are still toasting them) and the 4 pots being marginally weaker than the Brembos on the STI. That's like saying the 4 pots are marginally stronger than the '02 Rex 2 pots.
And I'd run a GM BCS instead of a Hallman MBC, but hey, tomato, tomahto.
I had a Forester XT (STI 2.5 motor) with an FP "green" turbo and FMIC, that put down 411 whp on 103 octane. Not as fun every day as a quick turbo Miata though, but I couldn't be touch on the highway.
As for the "the car costs 35K" argument, I could pick up a shitty Mustang 5.0 and spray a 200 shot and beat a lot of cars too, but you get more than just a faster car for your money. The STI is a functional car in the rain and snow. The Miata, not so much.
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I'll agree with pretty much everything 18psi said except for the RA gearset (not worth the 1500, and people are still toasting them) and the 4 pots being marginally weaker than the Brembos on the STI. That's like saying the 4 pots are marginally stronger than the '02 Rex 2 pots.
And I'd run a GM BCS instead of a Hallman MBC, but hey, tomato, tomahto.I had a Forester XT (STI 2.5 motor) with an FP "green" turbo and FMIC, that put down 411 whp on 103 octane. Not as fun every day as a quick turbo Miata though, but I couldn't be touch on the highway.
As for the "the car costs 35K" argument, I could pick up a shitty Mustang 5.0 and spray a 200 shot and beat a lot of cars too, but you get more than just a faster car for your money. The STI is a functional car in the rain and snow. The Miata, not so much.
Frank
no way really? hahahah thats funny.. i didnt know that...doesnt it have alot to do with the unequal length headers our cars have?
i honestly love the sound of a boxer 4, but know many people that hate it.....its either one or the other love it or hate it, and i definitely wont argue my opinion: its just that, and opinion. but i think they sound DAMN good
i honestly love the sound of a boxer 4, but know many people that hate it.....its either one or the other love it or hate it, and i definitely wont argue my opinion: its just that, and opinion. but i think they sound DAMN good
lol NASIOC/IWSTI invades miataturbo.net
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05-05-2008, 02:03 AM
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I think I am one of the few to actually provide pics.
Also notice the top left corner of the picture. This was taken in the office of T1 Race Development while waiting for a car to get off the dyno.
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05-05-2008, 02:18 AM
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I can buy a civic or mustang like fmowrystated, for a couple grand and spend 10K in mods that will outerperform cars costing many times more. This argument occurs between WRX and STi owners all the time at NASIOC and is silly. Also, I would hope you could spend $20K for a used WRX as you can get a used STi for $20K+. You can find bugeyes for $10-$12K.
Yeah that is echoed quite a bit, but the GD chassis is much stiffer and the new Impreza based on the modified Legacy chassis is even better. Don't get me wrong I plan on a swapped L, but I also plan on lots of chassis stiffening.
I remember when I first saw the GDB and couldn't believe how ugly I though it was. After seeing it at the ATL auto show I warmed up to it. Never liked the 04/05 redesign and I hated the 06-07 for awhile and now I think its looks quite good. Same with the 08, now I think it ranks up there with the GC.
Yeah in 03 the USDM cars got the RA width gears and they still broke.
Yeah that is echoed quite a bit, but the GD chassis is much stiffer and the new Impreza based on the modified Legacy chassis is even better. Don't get me wrong I plan on a swapped L, but I also plan on lots of chassis stiffening.
I remember when I first saw the GDB and couldn't believe how ugly I though it was. After seeing it at the ATL auto show I warmed up to it. Never liked the 04/05 redesign and I hated the 06-07 for awhile and now I think its looks quite good. Same with the 08, now I think it ranks up there with the GC.
Yeah in 03 the USDM cars got the RA width gears and they still broke.
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05-05-2008, 02:22 AM
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did you miss the part where i said the car totalled me 23k with all mods? gimme a break, this debate is not about a civic, hell you can make a geo outperform a corvette but its still a peice of **** and th vette is nice..........this is between two cars that HAVE THE SAME CHASSIS, have nearly THE SAME ENGINE (06-07's have the 2.5L btw), and LOOK THE SAME.....
I was simply pointing out the whole; "I can buy X car and mod it to be better than more expensive y car" is stupid and pointless. I know it's crazy, but some people don't want to mod a car, they simply want to buy it and drive it and not worry about a voided warranty and other issues that go along with a modded car.
Anyway, thread is way OT. You have a nice car and should be proud, enjoy it.
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05-05-2008, 02:29 AM
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I can buy a civic or mustang like fmowrystated, for a couple grand and spend 10K in mods that will outerperform cars costing many times more. This argument occurs between WRX and STi owners all the time at NASIOC and is silly. Also, I would hope you could spend $20K for a used WRX as you can get a used STi for $20K+. You can find bugeyes for $10-$12K.
Yeah that is echoed quite a bit, but the GD chassis is much stiffer and the new Impreza based on the modified Legacy chassis is even better. Don't get me wrong I plan on a swapped L, but I also plan on lots of chassis stiffening.
I remember when I first saw the GDB and couldn't believe how ugly I thought it was. After seeing it at the ATL auto show I warmed up to it. Never liked the 04/05 redesign and I hated the 06-07 for awhile and now I think its looks quite good. Same with the 08, I now think it ranks up there with the GC.
Yeah in 03 the USDM cars got the RA width gears and they still broke.
Yes, the UEL headers are what make the "boxer rumble". Put on some EL headers and they sound like any other 4-cylinder car. I also believe your 4.4FD has a lot to do with your quickness. Not knocking your car's power as I'm sure it would still be quite fast with the stock FD, but the tall FD really helps it scoot of the line. Out of curiosty what RPM are you lugging at in 5th gear at, say around 70mph? I could enter the info in to gearcalc I suppose, but I don't know your wheel/tire dimensions.
lol NASIOC/IWSTI invades miataturbo.net
Yeah that is echoed quite a bit, but the GD chassis is much stiffer and the new Impreza based on the modified Legacy chassis is even better. Don't get me wrong I plan on a swapped L, but I also plan on lots of chassis stiffening.
I remember when I first saw the GDB and couldn't believe how ugly I thought it was. After seeing it at the ATL auto show I warmed up to it. Never liked the 04/05 redesign and I hated the 06-07 for awhile and now I think its looks quite good. Same with the 08, I now think it ranks up there with the GC.
Yeah in 03 the USDM cars got the RA width gears and they still broke.
Yes, the UEL headers are what make the "boxer rumble". Put on some EL headers and they sound like any other 4-cylinder car. I also believe your 4.4FD has a lot to do with your quickness. Not knocking your car's power as I'm sure it would still be quite fast with the stock FD, but the tall FD really helps it scoot of the line. Out of curiosty what RPM are you lugging at in 5th gear at, say around 70mph? I could enter the info in to gearcalc I suppose, but I don't know your wheel/tire dimensions.
lol NASIOC/IWSTI invades miataturbo.net
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05-05-2008, 02:45 AM
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lol im really not invading....im actually in here cause i want a miata and pretty soon will get one 
my 5th gear rpm sux at 70mph, cause the gearing is so much shorter actually. it is right around 3500 rpm going 80, and my tires are 18x7 225/40/18 go ahead and plug that in the calc, im actually curious to see as well haha.......
and im sad to report that my quarter mile times actually got worse with the ra tranny, but not cause it sux i just really havent got used to it yet. on the street though during spirited driving it helps tremendously since it keeps the 20g in the 5-7k rpm, its "sweet spot"......anyways, yeah we did get off topic lol, back to thread:
nice job threadstarter:beerchug:
my 5th gear rpm sux at 70mph, cause the gearing is so much shorter actually. it is right around 3500 rpm going 80, and my tires are 18x7 225/40/18 go ahead and plug that in the calc, im actually curious to see as well haha.......
and im sad to report that my quarter mile times actually got worse with the ra tranny, but not cause it sux i just really havent got used to it yet. on the street though during spirited driving it helps tremendously since it keeps the 20g in the 5-7k rpm, its "sweet spot"......anyways, yeah we did get off topic lol, back to thread:
nice job threadstarter:beerchug:
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05-05-2008, 02:55 AM
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lol im really not invading....im actually in here cause i want a miata and pretty soon will get one
my 5th gear rpm sux at 70mph, cause the gearing is so much shorter actually. it is right around 3500 rpm going 80, and my tires are 18x7 225/40/18 go ahead and plug that in the calc, im actually curious to see as well haha.......
and im sad to report that my quarter mile times actually got worse with the ra tranny, but not cause it sux i just really havent got used to it yet. on the street though during spirited driving it helps tremendously since it keeps the 20g in the 5-7k rpm, its "sweet spot"......anyways, yeah we did get off topic lol, back to thread:
nice job threadstarter:beerchug:
my 5th gear rpm sux at 70mph, cause the gearing is so much shorter actually. it is right around 3500 rpm going 80, and my tires are 18x7 225/40/18 go ahead and plug that in the calc, im actually curious to see as well haha.......
and im sad to report that my quarter mile times actually got worse with the ra tranny, but not cause it sux i just really havent got used to it yet. on the street though during spirited driving it helps tremendously since it keeps the 20g in the 5-7k rpm, its "sweet spot"......anyways, yeah we did get off topic lol, back to thread:
nice job threadstarter:beerchug:
Had to guess at RPM limit and peak power@RPM. I've also found different values for RA gearsets, used the V6 RA numbers.
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GearCalc v2.0.0.3 Copyright ©2001, Peter Ogden
Gear Ratio, Speed and RPM Calculator
Gear set: Manually entered values
Gear 1 2 3 4 5 Final
Ratios: 3.083 2.062 1.545 1.151 0.825 4.444
RPM Limit: 7200
RPM @Peak Power: 5500
Tyre Size: 225/40 x 18
Tyre Diameter: 25.09 in
Tyre Circumference: 78.82 in
Gear Mph per 1000 RPM Mph @5500 RPM Mph @7200 RPM
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1 5.45 30 39
2 8.15 45 59
3 10.87 60 78
4 14.59 80 105
5 20.36 112 147
Mph RPM (in Gears)
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1 2 3 4 5
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5 918 614 460 343 246
10 1836 1228 920 685 491
15 2753 1841 1380 1028 737
20 3671 2455 1840 1371 982
25 4589 3069 2300 1713 1228
30 5507 3683 2760 2056 1474
35 6424 4297 3219 2398 1719
40 4911 3679 2741 1965
45 5524 4139 3084 2210
50 6138 4599 3426 2456
55 6752 5059 3769 2701
60 5519 4112 2947
65 5979 4454 3193
70 6439 4797 3438
75 6899 5140 3684
80 5482 3929
85 5825 4175
90 6167 4421
95 6510 4666
100 6853 4912
105 7195 5157
110 5403
115 5649
120 5894
125 6140
130 6385
135 6631
140 6877
145 7122
Gear Change RPM drop (change @5500) RPM drop (change @7200)
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1 -> 2 -1821 (to 3679) -2384 (to 4816)
2 -> 3 -1379 (to 4121) -1805 (to 5395)
3 -> 4 -1403 (to 4097) -1836 (to 5364)
4 -> 5 -1558 (to 3942) -2039 (to 5161)
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