Why no NC turbo kits?
08-17-2008, 08:32 AM
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Because the reputable companies aren't rushing one to market. They are taking their time and doing it right. BEGi has a kit in the works already. Pics were posted here and on their site. Besides, we all know NC owners are more concerned with things like keyhole covers than with real power adders.
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so please excuse me asking....
08-17-2008, 09:17 AM
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tell corky you'll sign a form that you'll never drive your car on a public street and he'll build you a nice kit....which entails removing the front cat, a federal crime, IIRC.
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08-17-2008, 09:27 AM
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Just like any product that needs to be developed, R&D'd, Marketed, manufactured...etc... there needs to be a demand for the product.
Forgive me for generalizing, but the demographic for NC owners is the 45-55yr old midlife crisis types who's wifes won't let them get a Corvette... or who have had previous Miatas and have to have the latest and greatest. They're involved in their local Miata club and their top goes up and down just like an SLK... life complete.
They are not interested in performance in any respect, and believe the car comes fast enough stock. There is a small amount of individuals who would like more power... but even a low-boost turbo kit will take the NC well over 200whp and the average NC owner "Oh, I don't need that much... how about just 10 more horsepower." Again, that is the generic NC owner. And after you tell them that their turbo kit is going to be $5k and another $1k for install and $500 for tuning and $500 for a clutch and premium gas, and THEIR WARRANTY IS GONE... it diminishes the already limited market to virtually nothing.
There's nothing more complicated about boosting an NC than any other car... it's just the standard engineering issues that pop up with doing anything aftermarket under the hood of a modern car w/all the smog equipment, ABS, traction-control, computers, etc... that take up virtually ALL the room under the hood. Electronically there doesn't seem to be anything special about it and I expect to see early adopters using generic piggybacks until BEGi releases whatever it is they're going do.
Hopefully Steph chimes in here with a guesstimate on how many their expecting to sell over the next couple years, but I just don't see the demand being more than a "limited interest by a few individuals."
Forgive me for generalizing, but the demographic for NC owners is the 45-55yr old midlife crisis types who's wifes won't let them get a Corvette... or who have had previous Miatas and have to have the latest and greatest. They're involved in their local Miata club and their top goes up and down just like an SLK... life complete.
They are not interested in performance in any respect, and believe the car comes fast enough stock. There is a small amount of individuals who would like more power... but even a low-boost turbo kit will take the NC well over 200whp and the average NC owner "Oh, I don't need that much... how about just 10 more horsepower." Again, that is the generic NC owner. And after you tell them that their turbo kit is going to be $5k and another $1k for install and $500 for tuning and $500 for a clutch and premium gas, and THEIR WARRANTY IS GONE... it diminishes the already limited market to virtually nothing.
There's nothing more complicated about boosting an NC than any other car... it's just the standard engineering issues that pop up with doing anything aftermarket under the hood of a modern car w/all the smog equipment, ABS, traction-control, computers, etc... that take up virtually ALL the room under the hood. Electronically there doesn't seem to be anything special about it and I expect to see early adopters using generic piggybacks until BEGi releases whatever it is they're going do.
Hopefully Steph chimes in here with a guesstimate on how many their expecting to sell over the next couple years, but I just don't see the demand being more than a "limited interest by a few individuals."
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08-17-2008, 09:34 AM
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I saw this a while ago...
http://www.turbomagazine.com/feature...ata/index.html
Don't know if they are actually producing it though?
Joel
http://www.turbomagazine.com/feature...ata/index.html
Don't know if they are actually producing it though?
Joel
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08-17-2008, 10:10 AM
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Yeah, I've run over this article too but I believe it is more then a year old and there is no sign of such a kit on Blitz websites, either USA or Japan.
Is the engine direct fuel injection type? And does anyone have links to engine pics or cutaway drawings?
Is the engine direct fuel injection type? And does anyone have links to engine pics or cutaway drawings?
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08-18-2008, 09:52 AM
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Our first NC turbo is running and has already gone home. It was a rear mount turbo system. That will not be the final turbo design. We need another car to do the next turbo system. Corky has figured out a way to put the turbo in the engine bay, but Mazda did everything they could to make it a royal PITA. And like brain said, can't move the cat or it is not emissions legal. So if you want to donate your car......
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08-18-2008, 11:48 AM
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I think moving the cat is the same as removing the cat in the federalies eyes. Replacing an OEM cat with a different cat is a no-no if it's less than 10 years/100k miles old.
I don't know for sure though. I'll stick to my OBD1 car.
I don't know for sure though. I'll stick to my OBD1 car.
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