Looking for a complete kit for 1.8 NB
Hello
I will be picking up a "10th anniversary" edition NB mx5 in couple weeks from Germany, and of course planning on turboing before summer. I need a complete good quality kit, budged ~3kUSD. Been looking at begi and FM, but they seem to be offering only 1.6 complete kits. So what are my options? Thanks for all feedback. |
Both Bell and FM offer complete systems for both 1.6 and 1.8 cars. In fact, the 1.6 was discontinued from the Canada / US market after 1993, so the vast majority of the cars which Bell and FM equip are 1.8s.
I'm not entirely certain what differences will exist between a German-spec NB and a US-spec NB, but I'm sure that either company can supply your needs. At your price range, FM's "Voodoo" turbo system will probably be the simplest to install and configure. |
If you're looking for used I have a almost complete BEGI S6 setup up for grabs.
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FM or bell no electronics kit, add injectors, megasquirt, exhaust and clutch. Probably the easiest, and hassle free way to go. And by hassle free, meaning you won't get shit from anyone on here for not using a megasquirt.
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Originally Posted by Joe Perez
(Post 969929)
Both Bell and FM offer complete systems for both 1.6 and 1.8 cars. In fact, the 1.6 was discontinued from the Canada / US market after 1993, so the vast majority of the cars which Bell and FM equip are 1.8s.
I'm not entirely certain what differences will exist between a German-spec NB and a US-spec NB, but I'm sure that either company can supply your needs. At your price range, FM's "Voodoo" turbo system will probably be the simplest to install and configure. Begi has some, but all the 1.8 kits seem to be DIY. And i would really need a complete kit.
Originally Posted by hobbs
(Post 969937)
If you're looking for used I have a almost complete BEGI S6 setup up for grabs.
Originally Posted by Erat
(Post 969980)
FM or bell no electronics kit, add injectors, megasquirt, exhaust and clutch. Probably the easiest, and hassle free way to go. And by hassle free, meaning you won't get shit from anyone on here for not using a megasquirt.
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Originally Posted by Muksimp
(Post 970018)
I can't seem to find any complete sets for 1.8, cant actually find any on FM. They all say "compared to stock 110hp" in the description, meaning they are for 1.6l..?
Begi has some, but all the 1.8 kits seem to be DIY. And i would really need a complete kit. https://www.flyinmiata.com/index.php...%20BLK%20GAUGE My mechanical skills are not up to that task, and cant be bothered to put in the time. Really only looking for complete kits for total newbies :P. |
Originally Posted by Muksimp
(Post 970018)
My mechanical skills are not up to that task, and cant be bothered to put in the time..
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Originally Posted by Muksimp
(Post 970018)
I can't seem to find any complete sets for 1.8, cant actually find any on FM. They all say "compared to stock 110hp" in the description, meaning they are for 1.6l..?
So, looking at this page: https://www.flyinmiata.com/index.php...%20BLK%20GAUGE That system is designed for a 1.8 NB from '99-'00. You also have to bear in mind that everyone measures horsepower a bit differently. For starters, these companies are all quoting HP as measured at the wheels, rather than brake HP. Additionally, every company uses different correction factors for drivetrain loss, altitude, etc. |
Originally Posted by Muksimp
(Post 970018)
My mechanical skills are not up to that task, and cant be bothered to put in the time. Really only looking for complete kits for total newbies :P.
I don't suggest doing this work yourself if your mechanical skills are not up to the task of installing injectors, megasquirt, and exhaust. Hell, even i fucked up installing the injectors. Pissed fuel all over the place. I learn from my mistakes. Even if you do run low boost your stock clutch won't last. You are capable of installing a clutch, but not injectors or megasquirt? Perhaps putting a turbo on your car isn't really a good idea. Quit saying you're a total noob, it's very cliche. Having never modified my own car before i did all of the above myself over the course of a winter. It's not difficult. |
I got the impression that he was looking for a "simple" kit, hence the pointer towards FM's Voodoo.
Good point on the clutch. At lower boost levels, a stock NB clutch might actually have a fighting chance, though I must admit I've never used one, so I can't really speak to the power level at which it's likely to let go. On the plus side, I hear that they have mechanics in northern Europe who are capable of installing a new clutch. |
Yup, and an exhaust will need to be sourced & installed
FWIW there is less wiring involved, and less work involved by not using the voodoo box and just plugging a megasquirt in. Though you have to spend time to tune it, or get a map from someone. But when it comes down to it, installing a "simple kit" is no more difficult than adding a few more things. |
He can run the stock exhaust system- lots of folks have. It's not optimal, but it works.
I'm always torn on the subject of engine management. Even I find it occasionally frustrating to deal with certain aspects of aftermarket ECU tuning. And while I certainly wouldn't use anything else on my own cars, I have seen enough people struggle and flounder with them that I can appreciate the simplicity of devices like the Voodoo box, the Powercard, etc. Not my cup of tea, but appropriate for the inexperienced who are willing to pay a bit more and get a bit less in exchange for not having to learn something new. |
I'm just going to say that after reading the OP's responses, for ease of install I'd go with the Kraftwerks Rotrex:
http://www.shop.kraftwerksusa.com/98...0-10-9805B.htm It's a bit over budget though. |
Originally Posted by Joe Perez
(Post 970077)
He can run the stock exhaust system- lots of folks have. It's not optimal, but it works.
I'm always torn on the subject of engine management. Even I find it occasionally frustrating to deal with certain aspects of aftermarket ECU tuning. And while I certainly wouldn't use anything else on my own cars, I have seen enough people struggle and flounder with them that I can appreciate the simplicity of devices like the Voodoo box, the Powercard, etc. Not my cup of tea, but appropriate for the inexperienced who are willing to pay a bit more and get a bit less in exchange for not having to learn something new. |
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