NB with aircon and power steering hotside charge piping
 

Turbo can't be clocked down.

Radiator hoses, power steering and air conditioning ---- all in the way.

I have the earlier headlights so I can't use the hole behind them.

Without cutting up the car or moving the radiator, it looks like I may have to run a pipe down between the two thermofans.

Any pointers at all?

:vash:

FML I even posted in the wrong section! :)

moving the radiator is stupid easy, just sayin'

even with the later headlights you still have to enlarge the hole a little bit.

Over the rad ftw.
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only downside to over rad is the necessity for brackets, shrouding, and high chance of stock fans not fitting if you don't get the positioning just right.

No custom brackets, no shrouding and stock fans fit with plenty of clearence with stock rad. T
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I probably should have said: "if you want to do it properly".

lol, I dd my car with absolutely no problems even in the summer. It was done cleanly also.
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Love your oil catch can! :bigtu:

LMAO no comment:giggle:
There's a big difference between "done properly" and "well it works, so...."

I have seen builds a lot more "special" than that. :giggle:

Guess I need to post more pics for the "experts". Cause you know, I have a history of doing things improperly.
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Its half assed. No one is going to argue with you about it, because even a retard will see that its half assed. You have a radiator bolted down on 1 side and a big ass gap between it and the support, and using a tiny ass interfooler as well.
I bet it "works" for you, but I nearly overheated my white car in the summer running it exactly like that, then finally did it right. That was on my 1st setup.

Has never over heated, not even when I lived in south Florida so I never bothered with shrouding....

As for upper bracket, it just wasn't in place when I took the pic. Had just finished working on the car. Tiny intercooler works perfectly, unless my iat sensor is lying to me.


Sorry about the bad luck you had bro..... :dunno:


This car has been driven like this for nearly two years and has been driven from FL to the Gap in NC and back, then from FL to NY, then down to VA, then from VA to FL and back and also took it to GA and back twice. So yea I guess it "works" lol
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No worries. I'm just warning op of potential issues without shrouding.
Glad it works for you tho.

Fo sho, I know my NA needed shrouding and it had a conventional IC setup. I was prepared to do some shrouding and got lazy. Just haven't bothered cause temps haven't been an issue.
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I'm glad you guys have kissed and made up.

Bull shizz I hate him. lol
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2" piping will go through the hole fine, that's what I use. Not sure if swapping to the 01" headlights is an option. Pictures in my build thread. https://www.miataturbo.net/build-threads-57/mobiuss-build-brotrex-bromex-galore-61242/

Take a peek at the TrackDog Racing kit instructions online. they use modded stock brackets....takes a little drill/dremel action but you can mimic it exactly easily. Was actually way easier than I anticipated. Only problem I found was finding an intercooler that was the 'perfect' size with same side inlet/outlet, so I just had a custom one made. CXracing got a few that will work.

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1329529349

I've decided to go the later headlight route. The early NB headlights are pretty ordinary when it comes to light output anyway.

Thanks guys :makeout:

There’s easily room for 2.5" IC piping with 98-01 headlights. You only have to trim small plastic part from the headlight housing.

Depends on the combination you are running. Headlight obstruction is one thing, hole size is another.

The 99/00 hole is slightly smaller than the 01-05, plus the 99/00 headlights are also deeper than the 01-05. You should have juuuuust enough room for a 2" charge pipe on a (98)99/00 with the headlight upgrade but it will be tight and it will depend on the angle. I test fit mine the other day (00 with MSM headlights) and it looks like it needs a little trim. Aluminum or silicone will need to be protected against rubbing the edges of the hole or it WILL wear through.

I just finished putting '04 MSM headlights and '03 nose on my car. I've got a full parts list at home with Mazda PNs for all the crap you'll need, let me know and I can post it up. If you do the headlights, do yourself a favor and do the nose as well or it'll look like ass. 99/00 with 01+ headlights is not as easy a 'direct swap' as some would have you believe, IF you want to do it right and have it look good.

Regardless... In4pics, I'd love to see your routing.

I'll definitely get a new bumper cover. I went the ultra lazy route and bought some MSM intercooler pipes. :)

Will post pics when it is in.

If you could post up that list, it would be a huge help!

Cheers

Hah, I almost did the same thing! I've got a box with all the plumbing from an '05 MSM sitting in the garage. Everything from the turbo to the throttle body including the IC. The plan was to use that (rotrex IATs are stupid low so I figured the tiny IC wouldn't hurt too much) but then I got a killer deal on a real IC and then found Mobius build thread. It looked too easy to NOT try. Only downside is that it is a bit more expensive.

I'll post the list tonight when I get home.

Sorry, ended up out of town...

Parts were ordered through Montgomery Mazda in NC http://onlinemazdaparts.com/ This site is GREAT as you can order anything with a Mazda part number. I even ordered a 49 state under-hood emissions label... you know... for my replacement hood...

1x N066-50-121 Guard (r) $6.47
1x N066-50-131 Guard (l) $6.47
These are the little guards that tie the bumper inlet ducting to the nose.

2x N066-50-E13A Slide, Front $2.95/ea
Snap in clips that replace the football shaped clips on the 99/00.

1x N067-56-132 Guard (r) M $26.17
1x N067-56-142 Guard (l) M $26.17
Front lower inner fender liners. The outer edge is profiled a little differently, the nose on the 01-05 is slightly wider so there is a gap between the 99/00 liners and these 01-05 liners.

there are a couple other part numbers...
2x N066-50-M15 Seal, RUBBER $1.80
2x N066-50-M25 Seal, RUBBER $1.80
These are little rubber seal things that stick to the nose and keep things from rubbing and damaging the paint. I ordered them because I'm crazy, but I won't apply them until after I get my nose painted.

My MSM headlights were REALLY hard to pop into place, I believe there might be a different part number for the square plastic headlight mounts. I eliminated the plastic bushing thinguses and slipped a short piece of vacuum tube or windshield fluid tube over the steel studs on the headlights and they slipped right in.

Hope that helps! Let me know if you have any other questions.

That's a great help, thanks again!

The MSM radiator support brackets are different to incorporate the charge pipe mounting brackets by the way.

If I were going to start over, I would get slim fans and go over the radiator. It's simple, short, and really easy to do. I think you need the slim fans though if you're going to keep AC.

stock radiator...nah

fit fine for me, im using big 2.5" piping with plenty of extra space. even have big FM front sway bar, fits fine, wasn't anything tricky about it at all.

again, for me...following along with the TDR instructions made it super easy.

http://www.trackdogracing.com/inst/9...rbocharger.htm

Thanks again for this info!

I ordered all these bits and it made my bumper conversion very easy!