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pdt602 10-12-2008 06:35 PM

Problem when hitting 10psi, car seems to rapidly backfire
 
I have a 93 with a greddy turbo, rx7 intercooler, walbro 190, 02 clamp, 1.8 injectors, bipes, vortec fpr, dual exaust with no cat. Once I hit full boost I get what sounds like it backfiring very rapidly and my acceleration is pretty much gone. Any thoughts, it has been doing this for a few weeks and I can't figure out what's wrong. My first through was that it was rich, any thoughts.

patsmx5 10-12-2008 06:41 PM

Install new NGK's BKR7's gapped to .020" and report back.

pdt602 10-12-2008 07:16 PM

New plugs
 
I just put some new plugs in about three weeks ago, but i will double check the gap.

Fireindc 10-12-2008 07:58 PM

Which vortec disk? 10psi on bandaids is no good w/o a wbo2.

Bryce 10-12-2008 08:08 PM

BKR7E spark plugs.

If it's rich it feels more like it's just bogging down.

Arkmage 10-12-2008 09:05 PM

way too lean will cause this condition... too rich bogs down and smoke...

jayc72 10-12-2008 11:31 PM

I'd say you are leaning out to the point of misfire. Been there done that, twas a bad fuel pump.

pdt602 10-14-2008 01:34 PM

Plugs Gapped at .020
 
Ok, I've regapped a new set of BKR7E's. I'm still having the problem, any other suggestions? Thanks guys.

Toddcod 10-14-2008 02:18 PM


Originally Posted by pdt602 (Post 318879)
I have a 93 with a greddy turbo, rx7 intercooler, walbro 190, 02 clamp, 1.8 injectors, bipes, vortec fpr, dual exaust with no cat. Once I hit full boost I get what sounds like it backfiring very rapidly and my acceleration is pretty much gone. Any thoughts, it has been doing this for a few weeks and I can't figure out what's wrong. My first through was that it was rich, any thoughts.

I thought 1.8L injectors were only good for 9psi? Back it down to 9psi and see what happens. If it runs smooth, I wouldn't run 10 again. Just me though.

What is your base spark set at?

Braineack 10-14-2008 03:04 PM


Originally Posted by Toddcod (Post 319606)
I thought 1.8L injectors were only good for 9psi?


too many variables...


it's possible if with the 190 lph fuel pump and the 12:1 were used in conjunction, that it could be overloaded with fuel, and the backfires are the result of raw fuel making its way into the exhaust.

BoostCreep 10-14-2008 03:07 PM

-what's your air/fuel gauge say? That will take out some guess work.
-Are you sure your couplers are all tight and it's not leaking at a higher boost level?

pdt602 10-20-2008 09:29 PM

I checked all of the couplers and they are tight. I lowered the boost to like 6 or 7 psi and it seems to work fine. maybe I need to get some dyno time and tune it again unless anybody else has some ideas.

RacingGreen 10-23-2008 10:12 AM

Well, the best idea was already mentioned:

GET A WIDEBAND

cueball1 10-23-2008 01:35 PM

Without a wideband you don't have some of the most important information needed to diagnose the problem. It is likely caused by a rich or lean condition but you have no way to know which. With that information it would give you some idea of the source of your problem. It will then help you in making adjustments to your system and make sure things are still safe. It's a $200-$300 investment that will help you tune your system and possibly save your motor.

Savington 10-23-2008 02:35 PM

wideband

jedduh01 10-23-2008 05:21 PM

I vote over rich... I run a simular setup, with wideband... before with the 12.1 disk in the vortec.. afr would be damn near 9.5 -10 on WOT runs... this is running 9 psi... i havnt pushed my setup to 10 psi but want to when MS goes in...

When i would get near 10 rich...it would bog, loose and not pull like you thought it would... lightened the disk in the vortec to the 8 or 6 i dont remmeber.. and now 11.5-12 at WOT.
Have someone "follow you" are you sending massive ammounts of smoke Light colored out the tail? Does it smell alot like fuel? etc...

I would doubt spark blowout... are those backfires LEAN conditions? and your hearing detonation?

Just my thoughts

Goodluck


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