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danscreations 06-22-2006 04:29 PM

Stumble at low rpms! Too Rich? Missfire?
 
Hey guys, I installed my greddy turbo kit about 2 months ago. It's the stock kit w/a TurboXS Type S BOV running 5psi. The BOV seems to be shimmed correctly; doesn't stall anytime and still releases boost pressure. If I drive the car normally hardly getting into boost or if at all the car seems to stumble at bit. Seems to do so more when its cold. If your rev the car up sitting still there's a good amount of hesitation low rpms before the motor seems to rev smoothly like it should. In my head I thought it could be (a) retarding the motor for the kit, (b) running to rich and its bogging when not in boost, or (c) bad plugs or coil pack. I haven't heard any misfiring while driving, and I checked the plugs to see if it was running rich. The plugs look perfect. My miata has 154,000 miles..lol..but ran fine pulls 20lbs of vacuum at idle. Maybe it's some thing i'm overlooking or its a timing issue which a bipes acu would fix. I dunno?!?! Any help would be appreciated.

bripab007 06-22-2006 04:47 PM

When was the last time you changed the plug wires?

danscreations 06-22-2006 05:18 PM

Changed the plugs when I put on the kit but never did the wires. Would you suggest changing them? I know it won't hurt...and if so what kind would you suggest?

bripab007 06-22-2006 05:31 PM

Miatas tend to eat wires faster than plugs, so, yes, I would suggest you do that.

bartsimpson 06-22-2006 06:29 PM


Originally Posted by danscreations
Changed the plugs when I put on the kit but never did the wires. Would you suggest changing them? I know it won't hurt...and if so what kind would you suggest?

IMO - NGK Blues are fine

firedog25 06-22-2006 11:17 PM

I have Accel wires, I changed my wires and plugs as part of my pre-turbo installation install. That actually solved my hesitation and stumbling issues pre-turbo.

kung fu jesus 06-22-2006 11:29 PM

ditto on the NGKs

Arkmage 06-23-2006 07:35 AM

It's going to feel pretty slugish compared to stock until you hit boost because of the timing retard. That's why most people feel the cost of the Bipes is well worth it. If you arn't getting a misfire code, then it's likely just timing. You could try setting the timing to stock 10* and going for a drive. Just be careful to stay out of the boost. If it makes it feel better in the bottom in, you have identified the issue.

bripab007 06-23-2006 08:05 AM

Yes, I ran the car for a short while at 6° before getting the Bipes, and I don't recall the car stumbling at low RPMs, though. I do, however, recall fixing a low-RPM stumble back when I first bought the car buy changing the plug wires.

firedog25 06-23-2006 07:00 PM

Same here, but it accelerated like a turd until 3K rpm. I love having Bipes, but I think I might have wanted to go with the Greddy E-Manage sometimes.

danscreations 06-23-2006 07:26 PM


Originally Posted by firedog25
Same here, but it accelerated like a turd until 3K rpm. I love having Bipes, but I think I might have wanted to go with the Greddy E-Manage sometimes.

Curious; why?!?!

firedog25 06-23-2006 11:31 PM

Because I had the timing retarded to 6 degrees BTDC. When I got my Bipes the following week, I timed up to 10, I'll probably go to 12 when I install the intercooler.


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