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Arkmage 04-15-2008 11:42 AM

Umm, for a spark plug to bend like that something has to hit it.

nicacus 04-15-2008 01:29 PM

If the rings are bad wouldn't it make some sort of horrible noise??
would a leakdown test be a wise?

nicacus 04-15-2008 01:31 PM


Originally Posted by Arkmage (Post 243068)
Umm, for a spark plug to bend like that something has to hit it.

Thats what I was thinking, but it doesnt look like anything hit it on the bottom.
It looks more like it got too hot and bent.. that wouldn't make sense either though, why would it bend up???

Arkmage 04-15-2008 01:55 PM


Originally Posted by nicacus (Post 243096)
If the rings are bad wouldn't it make some sort of horrible noise??
would a leakdown test be a wise?

Bad rods/bearings make a lot of noise... bad rings just burn a lot of oil.

I highly recommend a compression and leak down test to see what's going on... I suspect you may have cracked a ring land and a chunk of piston hit the spark plug. Something had to have hit it to bend it like that.

Braineack 04-15-2008 02:34 PM


Originally Posted by Arkmage (Post 243107)
I highly recommend a compression and leak down test to see what's going on... I suspect you may have cracked a ring land and a chunk of piston hit the spark plug. Something had to have hit it to bend it like that.


This was my thinking as well....

nicacus 04-15-2008 04:13 PM

Ok, I am going to do another compression test right now.
If there was someting in the motor bouncing around wouldnt I hear it?

nicacus 04-15-2008 04:19 PM

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Braineack 04-15-2008 04:25 PM

been there done that:

http://www.boostedmiata.com/blown_en...inepull003.jpg

nicacus 04-15-2008 05:14 PM

Ok I ran the compression test:
this time the engine was warm and I had the throttle wide open
1 -156
2 -157
3 -160
4 -160

That isnt bad is it??

patsmx5 04-15-2008 05:32 PM

No, but you gotta run a leakdown test now. If your oil control rings are failing, you'll have the symptoms you've showed but the extra oil on the rings seals them up. Leakdown test will diagnose leaky rings.

nicacus 04-17-2008 01:43 AM

I started to do a leakdown test but the tester I have is bad, but it does pressurize the cylinders.

I can here air coming out of the turbo, making bubbly sounds. Does that mean the oil seals are bad?

I'll have a new leakdown tester later tomorrow, so i will know all the numbers then.

grippgoat 04-17-2008 02:57 AM

Is it possible that you bent the plug while you were installing it? Like, too many beers and banged it on the valve cover because you missed the spark plug hole?

-Mike

MX5-4me 04-17-2008 07:16 AM


Originally Posted by nicacus (Post 243820)
I started to do a leakdown test but the tester I have is bad, but it does pressurize the cylinders.

I can here air coming out of the turbo, making bubbly sounds. Does that mean the oil seals are bad?

I'll have a new leakdown tester later tomorrow, so i will know all the numbers then.

here is a little info on leak down testing

http://autos.yahoo.com/maintain/repa...ques057_1.html

nicacus 04-17-2008 12:43 PM

The beer theory is possible, but more likely due to insomnia than alchohol.

So it's the rings then, because air couldnt get to the turbo if the rings were in good shape?

MX5-4me 04-17-2008 12:48 PM

That would be valves not rings unless the air is leaking down the rings into the block and up your oil drain.

that would require bad rings and a bad turbo oil seal, unless i'm mistaken.

Did you read that article I posted?

nicacus 04-17-2008 01:01 PM

Yes I did, it tells you pretty much everything the owners manual of the tester tells you and then some :bigtu:

The reason I figured it was the rings, is because you can hear the air coming out of the PCV valve and the breather as well

Braineack 04-17-2008 01:17 PM

http://www.boostedmiata.com/blown_engine/pistons.jpg

you just need some JB Weld...it will fix right up.

nicacus 04-17-2008 01:21 PM

Damn.

The question now is do i re-build it or just buy another one?

zoom2zoom 04-17-2008 10:53 PM

Nick, I have an extra engine just sitting in my 91 parts car, pm me and we can talk about it. I would just call, but can't find your number.

Braineack 04-18-2008 09:31 AM

rebuild would be better in the long run; build it how you want. Used is cheaper, faster, easier.


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