Tony Or Begi?
 

Hi Guys,

I know there has been debates about these 2 heavy weights.

Users please pick ONE! :bowdown:

Who's Tony?

begi makes a greddy dp?

either, just take your pick, they are both high quality

AFAIK, he used to make the Racing Mazda 2.5" Bellmouth DPs and started making them on his own at some point.

yes they do... where have you been?

Lowest price: Tony

Divorced wastegate return: Bell

Build quality: Pretty much equal

So anyone would say Performance its pretty much in PAR?

yea i have a tony, i think the only other benefit u have if u go with a begi dp is that they can make it in stainless steel... if you baller enough to throw down the dough.

i've had nothing but problems with begi since day one.
poor quality to the maxx.

you're the only one ive ever heard of with any problems.

The BEGI downpipe is nice. I currently own the stainless steel version.

Reckless,

Just what sort of problem were you having with your Begi? Do you mind to share?

I have the Tony pipe in 2.5" flavor. It's two piece slip joint with a flex in the second piece. Nice part. :)

first thing is that the holes on the flange didnt line up to the studs on the turbo.
the top peice of the pipe comes down and presses up against the engine block.
the bottom peice doesnt even come close to lining up with the cat.
and i suspect the devorced wastegate tube isnt lined up with the wastegate, and is holding it closed.

i've never seen anything quite like it.
after telling them what happened, corky didnt call me back, and stephanie doesnt return my emails.

So when you call them daily to resolve the issue do they hang up on you?

Wow, since I am located in Hong Kong. If the fact I gone through the same kinds of problem, I'll be pissing in my pants. Not to mention the freight cost going back to forth, but the labour and down time for the car. :td:

so where do you buy the tony downpipe???

i get "i'll get corky to give you a call"

Hey you arent the only one who has had minor issues with BEGI, When I recieved my turbo kit, the downpipe was missing the O2 sensor bungs, which turned out to not be a huge deal and I welded it where I wanted it to be. I dont know how it would have gone if I chose to have them resolve the issue but im sure they would have helped. Sometimes you gotta call a couple times on stuff like this as people can honestly just be really busy and forget about this sort of thing.

never needed to look it up, so I guess I wouldn't know. and where on their site is it?

Make a post on m.net saying CORKY RESOLVE MY PROBLEM.
He'll respond, guaranteed. Don't talk any trash or they'll delete it. Just post your problem nicely and it'll be there long enough for him and steph to give it some good attention.

ya that would work too

If i have noticed anything at m.net it has been corky's willingness to respond to posts in the FI section when his name is in CAPS in the title.

Now that I think about it, Tony hasn't been around here in a while... Just checked his profile, last activity in April.

Anyway, his email address is turbotony2k@yahoo.com. Worth a try.

i will try that.

Question:

If i remember.. TONY DP is $240 + some money for flex joint.

Does Begi come with Flex ? It it does... $285 mildsteel isnt'so bad!.

When I ordered mine last year, I paid a total of $355 including shipping for the 2-piece downpipe with flexjoint, plus a 2.5" catalytic converter, which was a stainless Magnaflow with the appropriate flanges welded on. I honestly don't recall the exact breakdown of how much each piece cost.

The "normal" Bell downpipes do come with a flex joint, and although they don't specifically state whether the Greddy pipe does, I would assume so. Call BEGI and ask, I suppose.

Greddy pipe? Flex joint? lol!

He meant the BEGI Greddy Downpipe.

One thing the Tony Pipe has going for it is that it's simple. Less welds means less chance of breaking. I would think the divorced DP that BEGI sells is going to be more prone to cracks.

i actually managed to catch him answering the phone today, and he says he can help me out.

Glad to hear it man hope it works out for you.

I'm running a Bell setup and have had some minor issues but they have been more than willing to resolve any issue I've had - they even tuned the car no charge and are supporting their kit as if new (now 8 months later) if I have any issues. Not to be a banner add for them but they will resolve issues if you work with them. Besides Corkey is just fun to talk to.

OK, here is the spec which Stephenie gave to me!

The downpipe does come with a flex joint and new gaskets. It also comes with a WB O2 bung already. If it is not needed, there is an O2 plug in the parts bag. The stock O2 bung is located in the upper portion of the downpipe, real close to the stock location. The second bung is located near the flex joint for the WB O2 sensor.

So, Begi does seems to win over at the price point also.

i'm jealous. i wish i got gaskets and stuff like that in my shipment.

corky is going to send me a new downpipe, though so i'm stoked about that.

The first two batchs of downpipes did not have matching turbine outlet flanges. The turbo on the develpment car had a different flange. Since the original pipe, we have run into THREE (?!?!) different turbine outlet flanges. So the best method is to send me a photo of the turbine outlet flange so we know which one to use. As for fitment with the exhaust, it bolts up in the stock exhaust location.

akaryrye- if I had known the bung was not there, I could have sent a new pipe or fixed the one we shipped to you.

Out of curiosity, has anyone talked to Tony? Rumor mill down here has him indisposed of, but do not know how true it is. If you do talk to him, tell him 'Hi' for me.
Stephanie

hmm, i wish i had known about the turbine flange issue before i had mine made. looks like i'll find out next week if it fits. :-)

We are trying to make one universal flange. If it does not fit, let me know and we'll take care of it.
Stephanie

no problem. i'll test fit it to the turbine as soon as it shows up next week.

Glad to hear it, about time that issue got resolved.

yeah for sure. he was pretty good about it.
the hardest part was getting ahold of him! but now all is well with the universe.

oh I know you would have solved the issue, you offered to fix it on the phone and instead I opted to get a free replacement for the needle valve on the fuel pressure regulator (i broke it) to not have downtime. Really not trying to bash you guys or anything cuz it was no big deal. On another note, you have an email from me regarding a carb sticker :)

I purchase my piece of BEGI DP yesturday, sent in photo of your Turbo.... made sure they got the right fit. Everything was a great expereince, especailly the easy conversation with Stephenie (though, I had to call 2am Hong Kong time). $285, with the quality and service, ++ charged on Credit Card... can't beat that! +$85 for the airfare to Hong Kong!

+ 1 !!

^$85 for shipping to Hong Kong,that's just brutal.

Well.. considering the fact, if I were to ship that into Canada... 15% Tax(depending on which Province) + Freight = around $80...! 6000miles flight for the DP doesn't seem that much more expensive anymore!:)

That isn't bad shipping on a large item. I think my Tony DP and test pipe cost about $60 to ship into Canada including everything.

Stephanie was very nice on the phone when I ordered mine too, but IDK if the three-different-flanges part was known at the time I placed my order.

...hope it fits, if not I'm sure they'll work with me.

well corky was willing to send me a new downpipe, i'm sure he'd help you out too if you have a problem.

So are any of these "gently used" downpipes gonna be for sale? :D

After 6 months of searching.... 1 came by for TOny DP, and it didn't last a minute b4 someone had the DIB. So... u could wait on the computer 24/7 for the next one avalible.

I was talking about the BEGis that were returned, I'm sure I could modify one to fit. :)

We may have some returned ones that can be modified. But no news yet.
Stephanie

The DP has been beat to death on the Subaru forums, for me I like the simplicity of the bell mouth or the FM. But that is just my Pref. I think Tony's manifold is a work of art and might sway me toward any other product he makes.