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paulschmid 09-28-2011 11:03 AM

turbo n build question on swap
 
Hey everyone I'm new to this forum hoping y'all can help me. I currently have a 1992 1.4l slow as hell. I'm ordering the jdm 1.8l swap. I'm also gona turbo this engine but first I gona build it. Im looking for 300hp. I need some rule of thumbs for this part. I know I need forged pistons n rods.
Question I have is what compression should I b looking at?
What cams should I b getting?
If there is a good turbo kit what would it b?

thirdgen 09-28-2011 11:22 AM

I feel bad for the flaming you are about to receive.
They don't make any turbo kits for the 1.4 liter, sorry.
Did you ever feel 300whp in a miata? You'd probably shit yourself.
Forget cams, just run the stock ones.
Search.

paulschmid 09-28-2011 11:28 AM

I know they don't on a 1.4l I'm doing the 1.8l swap

thirdgen 09-28-2011 12:01 PM

Maybe there would be a turbo kit For a 1.4, if there ever was a 1.4 in a miata.

hustler 09-28-2011 12:45 PM

Read my build thread, the front page pic/link of the awesome green car.

paulschmid 09-28-2011 06:29 PM

Can u just put link on here I can't find it.

Bond 09-28-2011 06:36 PM

Does your mum still wipe your ass?

chokeasphyxia 09-28-2011 06:52 PM

These instructions might help you out.

paulschmid 09-28-2011 08:22 PM

Thanks man

MartinezA92 09-28-2011 08:58 PM

Welcome to MT.net. Nobody is going to spoonfeed you.
Also, there is no such thing as a 1.4L in a Miata.

paulschmid 09-29-2011 10:43 AM

Well under my hood it says 1.4l which tells me there is a 1.4l. Now I don't need to b spoon fed I had legit questions hoping someone could lead me n the right direction. Never done a swap in a miata so I was just looking for help. So the smart ass remarks can stop uncalled-for. I've been on a bunch of forums n no one has ever acted like this. That's bad forums are suppose to be used for help b meeting people with the same intrest. Now treat it that way

18psi 09-29-2011 11:03 AM


Originally Posted by paulschmid (Post 777490)
Now I don't need to b spoon fed I had legit questions hoping someone could lead me n the right direction. Never done a swap in a miata so I was just looking for help. So the smart ass remarks can stop uncalled-for. I've been on a bunch of forums n no one has ever acted like this. That's bad forums are suppose to be used for help b meeting people with the same intrest. Now treat it that way

WRONG.
You're asking vague/stupid fucking questions that are in every single way/shape/form the precise definition of asking to be spoon fed.

The difference between this forum and others is that we treat everyone like a MAN, and not like a stupid child that asks questions like "where do babies come from?".

So start with the DIY FAQ, then the useful saved posts, then do a quick search: questions like yours have been asked ONE HUNDRED MILLION BILLION TRILLION times and there are FIVE HUNDRED GAJILLION THREADS ABOUT IT.

On another note,

Welcome, enjoy your stay:)

Sean 09-29-2011 11:14 AM

I would like to get a hold of a 1.4L miata engine to put in my DD I bet it would get sweet gas mileage. My 1.6l got 40 so the 1.4L would get at least 100 mpg. lol

dustinb 09-29-2011 11:16 AM


Originally Posted by paulschmid (Post 777490)
Well under my hood it says 1.4l which tells me there is a 1.4l. Now I don't need to b spoon fed I had legit questions hoping someone could lead me n the right direction. Never done a swap in a miata so I was just looking for help. So the smart ass remarks can stop uncalled-for. I've been on a bunch of forums n no one has ever acted like this. That's bad forums are suppose to be used for help b meeting people with the same intrest. Now treat it that way

Dude you don't have a 1.4, Mazda didn't stamp the engine with the capacity. Miata's come in 1.6 or 1.8. What year is your car? Secondly, you didn't ask anything about doing a motor swap, you asked questions about turbo'ing your car and getting 300hp.

To get 300HP you need about $5000 or more. This is what you need to spend the money on (and this is for either a 1.6 or 1.8 motor):
1. Turbo
2. Turbo manifold.
3. Downpipe 3"
4. Catback exhaust 3"
5. Injectors 500cc+
6. Intercooler
7. Intercooler piping
8. Programmable ECU
9. Blow off valve
10. Forged Pistons
11. Forged Rods
12. Boost controller
13. Clutch
14. New rear differential (assuming your car is a 1989-1993)
15. New rear axles
16. A shit ton of tuning

Those are the essentials. Good luck with build.

hustler 09-29-2011 11:19 AM


Originally Posted by paulschmid (Post 777490)
Well under my hood it says 1.4l which tells me there is a 1.4l.

Originally Posted by paulschmid (Post 777490)
Show us a pic of this mystery engine. Also, do not show your cock off in the pic. We have a special supercharger forum that's used for homosexuals.

Now I don't need to b spoon fed I had legit questions hoping someone could lead me n the right direction.

Originally Posted by paulschmid (Post 777490)
Liar!

Never done a swap in a miata so I was just looking for help.

Originally Posted by paulschmid (Post 777490)
Then you're in the right place.

So the smart ass remarks can stop uncalled-for.

Originally Posted by paulschmid (Post 777490)
Actually they are. Meanness is fun for the whole family...and by whole family I mean the family of kittens I have locked in my basement that I'm going to kill if you don't act like a man on this forum and stop crying like a faggette.

I've been on a bunch of forums n no one has ever acted like this. That's bad forums are suppose to be used for help b meeting people with the same intrest. Now treat it that way

Oh no, other forums are nicer than MT? What the fuck am I going to do with my life?!?!?! OMFG!!!!

Please, be a fucking man. When I joined this forum, I was not a man, I was a boy. The pain will make you a man, MT.net will be a father to you. He will take you by the hand and show you the way, he will spell things out, even lead the horse to water and take a little water in his mouth and "momma-bird" the water to you, but only after disciplining you. He will touch you in a place so intimate that the degree of pleasure you will experience will be life altering...and that place is your "magic button" prostate. However, MT.net cannot get to your pleasure zone until you put on a diaper, soil yourself, and receive a spanking from your father.

MartinezA92 09-29-2011 11:20 AM


Originally Posted by paulschmid (Post 777490)
That's bad forums are suppose to be used for help b meeting people with the same intrest. Now treat it that way

This forum is the most helpful forum you can go to regarding a specific make and model of car. You just have to be a man about it.
ITT: buttfrustration

paulschmid 09-29-2011 11:30 AM

Ok then I will b more to the point for a boosted engine which is more preferred 1.8l or the fe3 out f a kia

paulschmid 09-29-2011 11:32 AM

N I have a 92 miata. If that helps at all. Been told to go with the fe3 swap turbo n it don't sound that bad.

paulschmid 09-29-2011 11:36 AM

N as for pics I don't need to go through that trouble to prove they make a 1.4 they do if u don't believe me u can Google it. It not very popular cause it is slow which is why I wanna swap.

hustler 09-29-2011 11:41 AM


Originally Posted by paulschmid (Post 777515)
N as for pics I don't need to go through that trouble to prove they make a 1.4 they do if u don't believe me u can Google it. It not very popular cause it is slow which is why I wanna swap.

Nothing came up on google.

18psi 09-29-2011 11:56 AM

Is English your second language or do you just prefer to type like a severely retarded inbred?

paulschmid 09-29-2011 11:57 AM

Its there. I dunno pretty stupid for me to lie about that. I dunno

18psi 09-29-2011 11:57 AM

Well you do sound pretty stupid so...

dustinb 09-29-2011 12:39 PM


Originally Posted by paulschmid (Post 777527)
Its there. I dunno pretty stupid for me to lie about that. I dunno

You are so retarded. You come here asking for help and then tell us we're wrong. You don't have a 1.4, unless you don't actually have a miata. The 1.6 or 1.8 miata motors are fine for a turbo setup. But first, you need to learn stuff about your car, like what fugging engine is in it. Btw, you have a 1.6

thegrapist 09-29-2011 12:43 PM




Originally Posted by chokeasphyxia

One thing is really bugging me about this: did you have the picture before? If not did you actively search for "dragons going family style on miata"? or were you inspired by this thread to create the image? Either way my mind is completely blown.

paulschmid 09-29-2011 12:55 PM

Well either way no difference. I've only had the car for a couple weeks. I was told it was a 1.4l and Iwent with that. On the sticker on the car it says that if it not oh well honostly I don't give a damn. U making this sghit bigger then it gota b. I get the pick on the newb so go on not affecting me any lol

paulschmid 09-29-2011 12:56 PM

Seriously this thread has gone so far off subject it fruggin rediculous.

nitrodann 09-29-2011 01:00 PM

Do you want honest serious advice, if so please type yes please with correct punctuation, spelling and grammar.

Dann

paulschmid 09-29-2011 01:03 PM

Ok my bad all I was wrong just looked farther into it I dunno wtf it says 1.4l on the sticker on the hood. Some idiotic prolly put it there before I bought it. Sry to all I was argueing with. Now it is 1.6l I still want around same hp. Should I just build n boost this or what y'all advice

paulschmid 09-29-2011 01:04 PM

Yes please lol

paulschmid 09-29-2011 01:05 PM

N I'm not looking to go cheap want it done right

nitrodann 09-29-2011 01:09 PM

The serious advice is this.

This is the best and most knowledgable group of miata fanatics you will find on the net.

You will not be spoon fed, you will be expected to search for AT LEAST 10 mins before you post a stupid question.

You have a 1.6.

Read the faq. then read it again. then again. Then dont post for a week. then you may ask silly questions only after you have searched.

Trust me.

Your welcome,
Dann

nitrodann 09-29-2011 01:14 PM

also read my signature.

Put your car details in yours, and then add your location to your profile.

Dann

hustler 09-29-2011 02:37 PM


Originally Posted by paulschmid (Post 777551)
Ok my bad all I was wrong just looked farther into it I dunno wtf it says 1.4l on the sticker on the hood. Some idiotic prolly put it there before I bought it. Sry to all I was argueing with. Now it is 1.6l I still want around same hp. Should I just build n boost this or what y'all advice

Why did you lie to us? Do you think we're some kind of a cyborg? We are real people, with feelings, and integrity.

MartinezA92 09-29-2011 03:15 PM

Check your attitude at the door. And search. A lot. This has been covered ad nauseum

paulschmid 09-29-2011 06:15 PM

No attitude at all I'm good. Didn't lie I was confused said I was sorry. I'm doing research now so I guess appreciate y'all setting info straight

Bond 09-29-2011 06:17 PM

He has seen the light.

dustinb 09-29-2011 06:22 PM

If I could make a suggestion, shoot for 200HP first.

paulschmid 09-29-2011 06:31 PM

Lol ok I'll shoot for 200 first. I guess I can start with boosting the 1.6 for now

sixshooter 09-29-2011 07:31 PM

There have been quite a few that have made 300whp on the 1.6. Don't throw it out. It uses the same forged rods as the 1.8. It has a forged steel crankshaft already. It will take the same billet oil pump gear upgrade and the same ATI harmonic balancer. It can use the same clutch and flywheel upgrades and already uses the same 5 speed transmission. I uses the same upgraded injectors and fuel pumps.

I think all of this is in the DIY FAQ.

paulschmid 09-29-2011 08:00 PM

Awesome thanks for the input. I'll look in the diy database

chokeasphyxia 09-30-2011 08:25 AM


Originally Posted by thegrapist (Post 777542)



One thing is really bugging me about this: did you have the picture before? If not did you actively search for "dragons going family style on miata"? or were you inspired by this thread to create the image? Either way my mind is completely blown.

I wish I could take credit for that image, the dragon sex with cars is LEGENDARY.

redturbomiata 09-30-2011 08:50 PM


Originally Posted by 18psi (Post 777526)
Is English your second language or do you just prefer to type like a severely retarded inbred?

Signature worthy

samwu8k 09-30-2011 09:32 PM

lol @ 1.4

da chop 10-01-2011 12:23 AM

Its impossible to turbo a miata

triple88a 10-01-2011 03:29 PM


Originally Posted by da chop (Post 778260)
Its impossible to turbo a miata

Nah unless u gt ebay turbo f cheap n huk up da buust controller n max n then u can race pussies at street lights n win like every time y'll.

tasty danish 10-02-2011 02:45 AM

I like turtles


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