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freeberg 03-20-2010 12:39 AM

Why won't this tube fit? BEGi S2 1.6l w/ A/C
 
I am in the middle of installing a BEGi S2 kit on my '91 1.6l with A/C. I cannot make the turbo to intercooler tube fit! The hard lines from the a/c seem to interfere with the intercooler tube. Withe the tube installed, I can't move the a/c compressor back far enough to bolt it in. I have red arrows showing where the tubes hit. I'm I doing something wrong? Is my a/c system different than in everyone else's car? I would appreciate any help I could get. Thanks.


http://smashseminar.com/uploads/Charge_Tube.jpg

freeberg 03-20-2010 10:21 AM

Has anybody else had this problem?

magnamx-5 03-20-2010 10:52 AM

move the intercooler tubes abit you wont be able to bend that line and r12 is expensive. So unless you totally wanna remove the AC just mod the intercooler pipe or how it mounts.

Braineack 03-20-2010 11:13 AM

http://www.boostedmiata.com/gallery2...8+_Medium_.JPG

http://www.boostedmiata.com/gallery2...9+_Medium_.JPG



flip it around, you need to go under those a/c lines, not around them.


this is wrong:
http://www.boostedmiata.com/gallery2...4+_Medium_.JPG

^^ this is wrong.

freeberg 03-20-2010 12:27 PM

I tried going under the a/c lines and this is how it looks:

http://smashseminar.com/uploads/Miata__022.JPG

http://smashseminar.com/uploads/Miata__023.JPG



Then I flipped the tube over:

http://smashseminar.com/uploads/Miata__024.JPG

http://smashseminar.com/uploads/Miata__026.JPG

I would think I had the wrong tube, but BEGi sent me another one and it looks the same.


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Braineack 03-20-2010 02:46 PM

dunno then. call and bitch.

freeberg 03-20-2010 05:20 PM

At least from your pictures I can tell my a/c lines are normal. Thanks for trying to help.

Braineack 03-20-2010 05:23 PM

Those lines bend easily if that's the only issue in your first configuration. I got my pipe second hand so I'm unsure what it was sold as.

freeberg 03-20-2010 05:32 PM

Ahhh. Magna said I wouldn't be able to bend them. I was worried I would crimp or break them. If you think it's safe I will give it a try.

Braineack 03-20-2010 05:34 PM

yeah they are soft, just be careful with them.

shuiend 03-20-2010 05:36 PM

I had the same issue on my 94 with my S1 kit. So I pulled out my AC and the problem was solved.

Corky Bell 03-20-2010 09:37 PM

Freeberg, Yes, several 1.6 AC line configs exist. We've not yet had the privelege to see them all.

We have a dozen different els and hose bends. What do you think will fix your problem?

Sorry we sent a piece that is not in order.

Corky

freeberg 03-21-2010 02:18 AM

Brain, Those a/c lines do look soft, but they are VERY rigid! I wasn't able to bend them without using excessive force. The day wasn't a loss though. I successfully tapped my pan. Woot! Glad to have that out of the way!

Corky, Thanks for the info and the offer to help. I'll have to mock something up and let you know what I need. I'll be in touch. The project will probably be delayed however since I will be traveling to Rome for work at the end of next week.

Thanks again to everyone for their help!

magnamx-5 03-21-2010 09:13 AM

i was just erring on the side of caution Brain is definatley more right cause he has actualy done it vs my just nvr have done it status.

Corky Bell 03-22-2010 08:45 PM

Freeberg. My CE, Pawkett, reminded me we have three 1.6 comp outlet tubes. Chances are we made the wrong one.

Can you send me a picture of the tube you have? If necessary, we'll make both of the others and send them on.

Corky

freeberg 03-22-2010 11:34 PM

Corky, That sounds great! I hope we can get this resolved quickly. I emailed the pictures to Stephanie, and posted copies here:


http://smashseminar.com/uploads/Miata__027.JPG

http://smashseminar.com/uploads/Miata__028.JPG

http://smashseminar.com/uploads/Miata__029.JPG

Thanks


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