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Braineack 10-14-2007 08:15 PM

You GReddy guys all should replace your wastegates
 
http://i24.tinypic.com/2rzz62r.jpg

this is Rappadan's boost curve. Upgraded to a wategate actuator off a 300zx twin turbo. it bolted right up but had to be extended an inch.

but as you can see it's probably the best spoolup I've ever seen on a Greddy kit. Stock motor, turbo tony DP, 3" exhaust, MBC no helper.

Trent 10-14-2007 09:09 PM

how did he go about extending it? i have a serious problem with wastegate flutter on my greddy.

Ben 10-14-2007 10:06 PM

that's pretty much what mine does too...
17 psi by 4300 rpm or so in 3rd according to tonight's datalog.
His boost is nice and steady though.

miataspeed1point6 10-15-2007 12:05 AM

Wheres the instructions?!

Braineack 10-15-2007 08:46 AM


Originally Posted by Ben (Post 162997)
that's pretty much what mine does too...
17 psi by 4300 rpm or so in 3rd according to tonight's datalog.
His boost is nice and steady though.


It's not so much the spool up, but i haven't seen any better on a MBC. but the way it holds boost and doesn't spike is a substantial difference.

On the same MBC preload he was spiking hard to 12psi and dropping to 8psi by redline. Such is very common with all the Greddy kits as you are well aware.

Joe Perez 10-15-2007 11:54 AM

Did he pull this actuator from a junkyard car, or is there a known source of reasonably-priced new wastegate actuators for these cars? The last of the 300ZXs came over in, what, '96? I'm a little hesitant about sticking a 12 year old actuator on the car.

I'm tempted to try out one of the wastegate actuators offered by ATP Turbo. While some creativity might be required in terms of mounting and attachment, they have a couple rated in the 12-14 PSI range. Actually, I'd prefer to keep the MBC and use one with a lower rating, so that my WI failsafe mechanism continues to work.

Braineack 10-15-2007 11:56 AM

his buddy pulled them off turbos they pulled. But regardless, replace it with anything, the GReddy actuator sucks ass.

Joe Perez 10-15-2007 12:33 PM

Yeah, the stock actuator is a PITA. With a TurboXS MBC and a smallish helper spring, I've gotten the system to be fairly stable between 10-12 PSI, however there is still a noticeable spike.

Actually, this particular unit at FM looks attractive. It's a Gerrett piece, not terribly expensive, has a straight threaded rod, and a low base boost point so that I can keep the failback to low boost mechanism I've built. The ones that Forge makes look really nice, but a tad pricey...

Braineack 10-15-2007 12:40 PM

I wonder if you could fab this to fit:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/T3-T4...spagenameZWDVW

jayc72 10-15-2007 01:05 PM

http://www.flyinmiata.com/dealoftheday/index.php

Should be easily be able to make this work .... $30, the price is right.

Joe Perez 10-15-2007 01:05 PM

Probably, but I want something with a lower base pressure. My water injection system has a failsafe mechanism such that whenever there is no pressure in the waterline at the injector, a solenoid is open which bypasses the MBC. This way if the system ever fails, the turbo will make no more than base boost. With the stock Greddy actuator, this used to be 5PSI. Adding the helper spring increased it to about 8. I want to go back to something with a lower base boost to regain some of that functionality "just in case."

Joe Perez 10-15-2007 01:56 PM

... And interestingly, the FM Deal of the Day is this wastegate actuator: http://www.flyinmiata.com/dealoftheday/index.php

Looks perfect except for that oddball rod. Wonder how hard it'd be to modify that...

krayzrac3r 10-15-2007 02:20 PM

im thinking about getting it also but im just not sure if it can be easily modified to use on the greddy kit.

Ben 10-15-2007 02:24 PM

I'm not getting it out of FM hatred, but I'd bet it can be made to work easily enough.

jwarriner 10-15-2007 02:42 PM

You can extend or shorten any rod by cutting it and tapping the ends and using threaded joiners. If it needs to be longer just get a piece of rod that is the same diameter. Also, if it's too long you can just use short lengths of tubing to shim the mounting bracket. I've done this shit a few times.

Joe Perez 10-15-2007 02:58 PM

Personally, I have no FM hatred. Unfortunately, I also have no die set that I can use to thread that rod.

I think I may buy the other one, with the pre-threaded rod and the studs to attach a mounting bracket.

Joe Perez 10-15-2007 03:15 PM

Aw, hell. I broke down and ordered the DOTD wastegate. I can't pass up $30. The money saved lets me go to Harbor Freight and purchase a proper Tap & Die set. :bigtu:

Braineack 10-15-2007 03:17 PM

hacksaw and JBweld is all you need dude. :gay:

Joe Perez 10-15-2007 03:29 PM

Braineack FTL.

Ben 10-15-2007 03:34 PM

Ha, I was going to offer to do it for you, but getting your own tap/die set works too. :bigtu:


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