2017 tire updates for the 200TW crew
 

This just popped up online: Tire Tech /// 2017 Street Tire Overview ? tracktuned

Rival S in 245/40-15 :likecat: I ran the v720 last year and barely sqeaked into 3rd in a regional series. These are top on my list unless RE71r is ever made in anything wider than a 205.

A new Federal model that might be good for the poverty choice.

Anybody else seen anything about 200TW tires yet? Post up so we can keep track of this stuff if so!

This year gon be gud

The Yokos are a little spendy, and they're 180 tread wear, but they're allowed the Lucky Dog leauge I've raced in. Amazing dry and wet grip.

Yokohama ADVAN Neova AD08 R

The ad08r is 3 - 4 years old. It's never really been a player and is often priced above the other options. I'm sure it's not garbage but don't see a reason specifically buy.

Hmm....I have interest in the Rival S

Old news.
The cool kids already started a 275 street tire thread :giggle:

lulz

:dunno:

Rival S in 245 and possible RS4 in 245 is newish news. Good things happening. Big thanks to Maxxis (and 949) for jump starting this market.

I really don't understand why they were never popular in the miata community. I don't think I'd even heard of them until earlier this year when someone told me I should run them in a WRL race. I bought a set to test and was very impressed. We didn't get to do back-to-back testing with the RE71R because the guy that was bringing them didn't show up that weekend, but the AD08R was less than a second slower (on a 2:25 course) than the times that we'd previously been seeing out of RE71R and Rival-S, and it barely showed any wear by the end of the weekend. I'm excited to try them some more next year. Looks like it might be a perfect WRL/track day tire.

$$$
Miata owners are cheap bastards.

They've been ~$130+ in an era where the old Rival was the first Max Summer tire I ever paid more than $100 for. Old RT615, XS, Z1, Z1* were all ~<$100

They're still $36/tire more than RE71R.

True, but I think the lap time vs. wear rate might justify the cost.

Thanks for sharing that post, was a nice summary of the recent discussion in our other tire threads :party:

We have had really good results with them last year in Chumpcar. The tire has equivalent performance/times to RS3/Rivals and lasted much longer. I think its a bit more tread over all, but I wouldn't hesitate to recommend them if you are willing to spend a bit more and need more life before you kill your tires. We are pretty good on tires over all, so we haven't needed them, but if we couldn't make a race on one set of tires (and didn't want to do a mid-race swap), I wouldn't hesitate to drop the money on them.

Yeah yeah, I've read the other tire threads a million times, just wanted a concise place for anything new in this category :-)

@Curly The AD08 I don't see in anything wider than a 205 in a 15" diameter...am I missing something there?

@18psi a 10" wheel would be swell, but I'm not ready to start cutting up my car for this lol. If I can get a 245 on a 9" wheel (I know, faster on a 10") under my flat rolled/lightly pulled NA fender that's what I'm doing.

Also I guess the new rules in my series allow for a 140TW. Aside from the AD08 at 180, I don't recall seeing anything else in a 225-245 15" unless I go to 100TW (R888, NT01, etc).

Sorry, missed that part of your original post. And as others have said, the AD08 shines in enduro racing and/or rain. Doesn't really apply if you want 225-245 dry autox times.

I ran the 225/15 Rival S on an 9" wheel this year and really like the tire for autocross. I would love to try a 245 and see how it does. Looking forward to tests on the new competition. The Federal is always great to be able to use when on a budget, great performance for the money, atleast with the old 140tw stuff.

I too will possibly try the Rivals in 245 barring any complaints when my 245 VR1s are finished next summer. Interested to see how they compete with the 275 VR1s.

Hankook RS4 in 245/40-15

The RS3 were not quite as fast as the Rival S and RE71r as we all know from the Hierarchy thread. Maybe these will bring a little something extra.

Hankook Ventus R-S4

Mid march delivery btw.

Thanks for that. I just saw that the old RS4 thread had been resuscitated and has some good info. Glad to see Andy Hollis chiming in about things there.

I emailed BFG the other day to ask about the 245 x 15" release, here's what I got:

Regarding your email stating:

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Hello,

When will the 245/40-15 Rival S be available for retail purchase? I'm quite excited about this size and would love to know if it will be released by the end of Q1 2017.

Thanks much!
Matthew
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Unfortunately, our system shows an estimated release date of late 2018. This is not set in stone as they have it marked as "estimate" it may change.

Sorry for any inconvenience.

Boo! I hope that is an overly safe estimate.

Yeah me too, but I'll probably end up on the 225 Rival S unless that RS4 in 245 both comes out soon and is tested before I spend monies. My first event is in April and I need to be set up by then.

FWIW, unofficial word from a Tire Rack rep is they expect to see them sometime in Q1 2017, not 2018.

I wonder if Hankook will follow with a Z214 245/40/15? Glad to see that size has caught on.

I hope this is what will actually happen.

Some sizes in Q1. So maybe, maybe not. Rs4s are supposed to be in mid march.

Looks like every size in the RS3 on TireRack is on closeout, so the Q1 RS4 rollout seems about right.

Appears the 225's are sold out..... At least they aren't listed.

A bit speedy but they are realhttps://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...4ef7f05319.png

Thanks! Just saw this mentioned in another post.

I ended up snagging a set of 225 Rival S because my series starts pregaming this Sunday and I could not wait for the 245 to come out...needed to buy something and start dialing it in. Will definitely be keeping an eye on the testing of this and the 245/40 RS4 to see what the impressions are. Most likely won't jump ship to anything wider this year unless the RS4 are unicorn tears and kill everything else in their path. I'll get farther with driver mods than wider tires.