Cages that do not cut the door
09-03-2010, 12:00 PM
#41
Its in the bay area, about 6 hours north of LA. Any competent cage builder should be able to keep the windows working fine. You can even zip tie the windows in the up right positions like i do now. I do it to wash the car and keep dust out of it while its parked.
As you can see, window is in and up with no mechanism holding it there, when i get to the track i snap the zip ties and yank the windows out. Zip tie them back in when i go home.
I would NOT want to have a side impact with that cage.
As you can see, window is in and up with no mechanism holding it there, when i get to the track i snap the zip ties and yank the windows out. Zip tie them back in when i go home.
I would NOT want to have a side impact with that cage.
I wouldn't want to be in a side impact with that cage either. If I went with something like that I definatley wouldn't use the supplied door bars.
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09-05-2010, 10:00 PM
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just thought i'd mention that i have a tcdesign cage with nascar style door bars same as tsb's and i have fully functional windows. the only catch is that the door needs to be open to open and close the windows (the winder hits the cage if door is closed). wouldn't this work fine for u?
for folks who don't want to keep the window (specmiata), tcdesign makes the cage slightly different by moving the nascar bars a little more away from the driver. i dont' think its a huge difference tho.
for folks who don't want to keep the window (specmiata), tcdesign makes the cage slightly different by moving the nascar bars a little more away from the driver. i dont' think its a huge difference tho.
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09-06-2010, 03:12 PM
#48
just thought i'd mention that i have a tcdesign cage with nascar style door bars same as tsb's and i have fully functional windows. the only catch is that the door needs to be open to open and close the windows (the winder hits the cage if door is closed). wouldn't this work fine for u?
for folks who don't want to keep the window (specmiata), tcdesign makes the cage slightly different by moving the nascar bars a little more away from the driver. i dont' think its a huge difference tho.
for folks who don't want to keep the window (specmiata), tcdesign makes the cage slightly different by moving the nascar bars a little more away from the driver. i dont' think its a huge difference tho.
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09-06-2010, 04:04 PM
#51
I did the drive to Sacramento in 11 hrs once. Straight driving, no stops from Vancouver, BC. For a quality cage I would be willing to do the drive. You only get a cage once. I just need to figure out what to do for the few days they would have the car.... I'll pull my trailer down with me and bring my R6... 
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09-06-2010, 05:25 PM
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Hard dog bolt ins are a death trap, you're going to be hurting in any impact situation, unless if you are a super short. Miatacage.com kits can be built with non-nascar door bars retaining full window control. If you have crank windows you might have to open the door to roll the window up or down. 
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09-06-2010, 05:29 PM
#53
With my bucket seat my head is over 5 inches from the bar.
The Miatacage one looks nice but they don't use all the head-room possible. If you look at the upper bars. And for the $1200 it will cost to get sent to me I would rather spend an extra $600 and get a custom cage.
The Miatacage one looks nice but they don't use all the head-room possible. If you look at the upper bars. And for the $1200 it will cost to get sent to me I would rather spend an extra $600 and get a custom cage.
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09-06-2010, 07:14 PM
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With my bucket seat my head is over 5 inches from the bar.
The Miatacage one looks nice but they don't use all the head-room possible. If you look at the upper bars. And for the $1200 it will cost to get sent to me I would rather spend an extra $600 and get a custom cage.
The Miatacage one looks nice but they don't use all the head-room possible. If you look at the upper bars. And for the $1200 it will cost to get sent to me I would rather spend an extra $600 and get a custom cage.
They have one of the best kits I've ever seen. I'm curious to hear some more explanation as to how they're not using all the head room available.
All bars are pushed up into the hardtop, not straight.
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09-06-2010, 07:34 PM
#55
If you need a cage built locally, you should go see Peter VanBogart at cascade autosports. http://www.cascadeautosport.com/
Peter has built cages for rally cars for years. He has seen his cages go through catastrophic accidents while in cars that were wadded up in the forest. He definitely knows how to build a cage. He built my friend's Pro3 (spec e30) cage and also used to build tons of spec miata cages. I have personally never seen a cage of his quality in person, even TC Motorsports cages aren't near as nice.
They are ******* expensive though.
Peter has built cages for rally cars for years. He has seen his cages go through catastrophic accidents while in cars that were wadded up in the forest. He definitely knows how to build a cage. He built my friend's Pro3 (spec e30) cage and also used to build tons of spec miata cages. I have personally never seen a cage of his quality in person, even TC Motorsports cages aren't near as nice.
They are ******* expensive though.
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09-06-2010, 09:00 PM
#56
Curly... see the side upper bars? Every spec miata I've sat in my head has been banging all over those. The TC cage I saw has those two bars on the upper outer section bent upwards.
And I'm not going to pay $1000+ for a cage I will only use half of the supplied parts.
And I'm not going to pay $1000+ for a cage I will only use half of the supplied parts.
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09-06-2010, 09:44 PM
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I thought the bends nessecary to get the door bar up through the dash and bent to go towards the rear main hoop took up all the legal bends that can be in that particular hoop. I could be wrong though. We're getting off topic.
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09-06-2010, 10:41 PM
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Also, I really don't have much information on this for you, but I have seen a few East Street Racing cars with "miatacage.com" cages that are NOT like what MC sells on their website. Their front down tubes have more bends in it, similar to that AWR cage. Tons of head room. I don't even have any pics to show you what I am talking about, but you might want to give them a call.
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