Fender rolling is easy
 

So this is a quick comment. In preparation for some 15x9 6ULs I rolled the fenders last night on the NA track Miata using a fender roller tool (rented from rlogan) and a heat gun. This is the first time I have rolled the fenders on anything. It took just over an hour to roll all four. No cracked paint, and it looks fine.

One bit of advice... Take the upper screws off of the front fender liner BEFORE you roll the fender :facepalm:

No pictures yet but they are not really needed since it looks the same as most any other rolled Miata fenders.

So, if you have maybe been hesitant to roll yours, get a fender roller tool (the kind that attaches to the hub), a heat gun, and go for it.

I rolled mine a long time ago (only the rears though, the fronts didn't rub), what I'm mored interested in is where did you get the roller?

HF used to carry them but stopped, and most other places want an arm and a leg for em.

I bought the one he used off of ebay...I think it had been used once. It was the tire rack model and it was around or less than $200 shipped with heat gun.

Here is the least expensive one out right now. $150

http://stores.toolzunlimited.com/Ite...LAID=487958514

I used a double dong and a syringe I dug out of the dumpster to roll my fenders.

Man, that double dong must have had some girth and rigidity...was it prelubed?

Better story than my wooden bat I used... :giggle:

Rlogan bought it from somewhere, I forget where. It was not cheap, about $200+ IIRC. But if it lets me get it done in an hour (instead of four) with good results (and not crappy looking) it is worth it.

It looks exactly like this one. Exactly.
http://www.eastwood.com/ew-fender-ro...struction.html

Well actually I did use my schlong, from the bedroom, using a fluffer (from the harem pool) to keep it up, wearing two condoms (large trashbags) to prevent scratches. Viagra works too from what I hear, but the fluffer is more fun.

drift store "poweredbymax" sells them meant specifically for lowered cars.... it is adjustable for the non-lowered variety too though.

iirc roller is about the same if not less than the HF one. @ ~220$

http://www.gtfactory.jp/cms/page.php?10

I bet this would work better than the bat trick, which is great on the top of the tire, but towards the edges the fender starts getting further away. Doesn't matter much since the rear wheel doesn't move forward and backwards, but it looks uneven.

I know some forums have one or two guys (rlogan) that charge $40 to ship you their roller, then in a few weeks you ship it back. It's not really one of the rentable tools at autozone. I might rent it, along with someone's scales. That'd be nice.

Let me know if you find some scales to rent! I'd be in for a NW MT.net corner balance day. Bet a couple of the CR kids would chip in too.

Indeed it does. Had I used the roller I wouldn't have had to spend way too much time with the wheels off and carefully metal working the rest of the edges. Details like that bug me, so I had to go the all or nothing route.

our car club bought one (eastwood) but i didn't want to mess around so i just cut the lips right off with a jigsaw with the correct blade. it was so easy with the right blade, it went thru that shit like butter, took under 5 mins. per fender and i just used some primer with a little brush for rust protection.

the other guys i've seen roll their fenders took 4-5 hours! but they weren't miata's, maybe miata's are easier to roll.

They are only difficult if user works too fast and ends up doing more pulling than actual rolling. The fronts I trimmed as well... ;) Learned my lesson from the rears.

Maybe you can show that to us at the next race. Will it fit in your trailer?

Pics?

Volume wise, but it will exceed the weight limit of the trailer.

Ryan does rent out his roller. We are talking about bringing it to the next NASA race so it is available.

Also, this is very preliminary, but we were discussing at lunch about how we could rent out the scales at the track. Maybe set up on a level surface somewhere and charge by the hour, with a minimum. Would the Texas crew be interested in that assuming the price is reasonable? We need to clear this with the other two owners of the scales before it is a go. If it is a go I will start another thread.

the so. texas crew pitched in on a set of our own. thanks though, that's a good idea!

i can try and take some at lunch. which is like 4pm for me.

AACHH!! Don't go renting your scales at the track!

How are you guys shipping the roller/heat gun? Last time I rented my roller, it was nearly 30 to ship. I offered it on here but a couple cry babies got huffy and puffy over the DEPOSIT.

lol @ stock fenders, that's so 2010.

The baseball bat method worked great for me, my paint is thrashed anyways so I didn't bother with a heat gun. There's no limit to how much you can roll/pull the fender out if you are methodical and creative.

Done with a baseball bat, this is a stock NA fender and those are 15x9's with 225/45's on them. There's probably room for the 275 under there:
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If you mean me, so far he is not shipping it anywhere. It is only being rented to people that he can essentially hand it to. But yes the thing is moderately heavy so shipping would not be cheap unless maybe it could be crammed into a USPS flat-rate box or something.

you talkin' to me? if you are don't worry, no way we're talking our scales to the track. i meant that's a good idea to help some people out. people that don't have scales. like, not us.

Nice, seriously.

http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:A...bzg2eK35LPKPPg

No worries, just yanking your chain :)

Yeah I am not sure taking scales to the track is a good idea either. Things get damaged, walk off, etc. I suppose I could level the trailer and use ramps... naaahh. I am there to race. Whatever we do has to be pretty low maintenance.

Hey snugglebuns I have to roll my fenders for my 225/50/15 MT DR IIs I just got. I will pay for shipping and deposit etc...

You ever call me anything other then Mr. Chapman again and the next thing I send to you will be a box full of poison ivy wrapped around a noose. :slap:


Now that I got my pre 2011 Hustler thing out of the way, just send me a PM if your serious and I'll get it sent out. :D

Did you have to ditch your front fender liners? I will be rolling mine once I get the 15x9 6uls and 225 hankooks mounted.

What are fender liners?


Hopefully that answers your question

Good thing I already ripped them out then! =]

Mine are still in.

Well in that case, once I finish the roll, I will probably put them back. What about where the fender liner mounts to the fender lip? How would it attach post roll?

Depends on your ride height and stiffness of your spring. I'm using a relatively soft setup so I kept rubbing the liners so I pulled them. If you don't rub, leave them in, they can't hurt.

For those that left them out, what do you do about the blue wire bundle that normally resides above the fender liner and hangs down with the liner removed? Zip ties? Duct tape?

air bag sensor- removed

They are just kind of being held in there by the curled up lip on the inside edge of the fender. I think they will be fine but I'll remove them if they look like they could be a problem.

i used zip ties, however they eventually broke and my tire wore through the bundle... so it is getting removed.

Perfect. Won't be needing those.

just make sure you pull the 'brain' from underneath the dash otherwise your shit will be buzzin'.

It's the blue box above the steer shaft - yes, it's a pain in the ass to get to but should take you less than 15 min. to pull.

-Zach

Too add to the mix... with rolling the fenders (some have opted to remove the liners). When you do this, there will be water that can penetrate into the cabin from the door threshold. Only had it happen once, major rain and standing water at 45 mph. There is a solution though...
Add a blocker with sheet metal. The contour took me some time to get right, but using the existing bolt here's is what you can do to prevent it.

I have 225/45R15s on some 15x7s that are going to be going onto an NA with 600#F/375#R FCMs; think I need to roll the fenders?

I just cut the plastic liner so I had basically 1/3 of it left to bolt back in. Blocks the fender/door threshold just fine.

He He... wish I didn't get rid of them so quickly. ;)

I did have to roll the front fenders with the R-S3s (not the rears, wtf?) and I completely banged the shit out of the fenders.

I didn't know that the miata fenders were such a great composting site, though.

225/45/15 tires on 15x9 6ULs fit fine with no rubbing. 12.12" front ride height, 12.3" rear ride height. 750 front springs 450 rear springs. This is at Harris Hill which is a bumpy track.

I rolled the fenders and everything fits fine, no rubbing.

http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/9...421dsc0066.jpg

15x9?

Looks like stretchorama

That's what the 225 RS-3 looks like on the 9" wheel. That stretchorama is good for lap times.

looks great!

EEEK! Don't let the hella slammed stance boys hear that!

Well to them that tire is sitting fat on that wheel. For a track guy, that's stretched. Slammorama guys would want say that 15x9 needs a 195 :(