NASA TT operation save non oe shape hardtop
02-21-2011, 04:32 PM
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NASA TT operation save non oe shape hardtop
If you run one or are thinking of running a non oe shape please quote Emilio's post below in the NASA TT thread linked and give an amen.
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Originally Posted by 949Racing
PT/TT are classes that don't ban anything, unless it's safety related. This should remain so for the continued health of the TT/PT program.
I can not find any sound and unassailable logic in favor of banning non OEM shapes unless NASA also bans non OEM shape fender, side sills, noses, windshield frames.
It is clear that an aerodynamic advantage could be realized with a non OEM shape so it should be treated the same as a nose or fender shape change.
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13) Replace or modify OEM Hardtop shape or features with non-fastback. OEM hard top shape herein defined as within 1/2" of external OEM dimension. (note: Additional points must be assessed for any spoiler, vertical fins or vortex inducers integrated/attached into hardtop, see G.3),G8),G.10) +1
14) Add fastback hardtop that covers any portion of OEM trunk opening. (note: Additional points must be assessed for any spoiler, vertical fins or vortex inducers integrated/attached into fastback, see G.3),G8),G.10) +3
I can not find any sound and unassailable logic in favor of banning non OEM shapes unless NASA also bans non OEM shape fender, side sills, noses, windshield frames.
It is clear that an aerodynamic advantage could be realized with a non OEM shape so it should be treated the same as a nose or fender shape change.
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13) Replace or modify OEM Hardtop shape or features with non-fastback. OEM hard top shape herein defined as within 1/2" of external OEM dimension. (note: Additional points must be assessed for any spoiler, vertical fins or vortex inducers integrated/attached into hardtop, see G.3),G8),G.10) +1
14) Add fastback hardtop that covers any portion of OEM trunk opening. (note: Additional points must be assessed for any spoiler, vertical fins or vortex inducers integrated/attached into fastback, see G.3),G8),G.10) +3
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02-22-2011, 10:59 AM
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I think all the S2k guys should band together. Fly to SoCal with their Mugen tops and stand in Gregs front yard. That my friends is how you change the regime. Ofcourse I don't know Gregs stand on military force
I read section G of the Time Trial Classification form and it looks to me like a 2-3 point assessment for the fancy-top makes sense. I've only been through this stuff for about 6-months so I'm naive and ignorant.
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02-27-2011, 07:09 PM
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These guys need a little free market action. If we had a series like Speed Ventures', NASA would consider getting their act together to keep their customers. I know I'd be the first to unload from NASA and run with SV if they were in Texas to get away from the stickers and the shitty classing that somehow puts a $60,000, 190whp, 1900lb car with the same shock and tire mods, with factory aero, in the same class as my Miata.
btw, apparently there a 3 things that get people in an uproar at the mere mention. ****'s, slavery, pit bulls. don't mention any one of them in any thread......ever.
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02-28-2011, 12:57 AM
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Misty, who used to run the PDS at TWS, has spun off her own DE school (http://www.rpmschool.net/). First event is this weekend at H2R and get this...as part of the registration you can join the time trial on sunday!
It may be something to look into for future TXMC events. I can talk to Misty this weekend if yall are interested. unfortunately I wont have my miata ready for a while, but I'd like to help any way i can.
It may be something to look into for future TXMC events. I can talk to Misty this weekend if yall are interested. unfortunately I wont have my miata ready for a while, but I'd like to help any way i can.
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02-28-2011, 01:53 PM
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Misty, who used to run the PDS at TWS, has spun off her own DE school (http://www.rpmschool.net/). First event is this weekend at H2R and get this...as part of the registration you can join the time trial on sunday!
It may be something to look into for future TXMC events. I can talk to Misty this weekend if yall are interested. unfortunately I wont have my miata ready for a while, but I'd like to help any way i can.
It may be something to look into for future TXMC events. I can talk to Misty this weekend if yall are interested. unfortunately I wont have my miata ready for a while, but I'd like to help any way i can.
I think it would help TxMC and her new venture if we could advertise a partnership Ala speed ventures/MC. May finally be able to get vendor contingencies or support if something like this could happen. Our first solo event (with full cooperation from track management ) will be this June @ H2R. They will be having a DE but we will have our own run groups! Be nice if you could make that event.
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02-28-2011, 07:46 PM
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haha, i'll see what she has to say. I think she will have no problem with it.
In other news, http://texasworldspeedway.com/about-.../57-txroc.html
TWS PDS is now incorporating a W2W run group in their school as well as a TT in the advanced group. sounds like things are a changin.
In other news, http://texasworldspeedway.com/about-.../57-txroc.html
TWS PDS is now incorporating a W2W run group in their school as well as a TT in the advanced group. sounds like things are a changin.
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02-28-2011, 08:44 PM
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haha, i'll see what she has to say. I think she will have no problem with it.
In other news, http://texasworldspeedway.com/about-.../57-txroc.html
TWS PDS is now incorporating a W2W run group in their school as well as a TT in the advanced group. sounds like things are a changin.
In other news, http://texasworldspeedway.com/about-.../57-txroc.html
TWS PDS is now incorporating a W2W run group in their school as well as a TT in the advanced group. sounds like things are a changin.
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02-28-2011, 10:30 PM
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I will be out at cal speedway this weekend with NASA. I will have a chat with Ryan flairty (I think that's how you spell it). Let me know what you have to say about what you want. Also it would help if you went on the NASA forum and posted there. I would like to see NASA pick up something other than sm.
Have a great day,
Jared
Have a great day,
Jared
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03-01-2011, 02:35 PM
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I will be out at cal speedway this weekend with NASA. I will have a chat with Ryan flairty (I think that's how you spell it). Let me know what you have to say about what you want. Also it would help if you went on the NASA forum and posted there. I would like to see NASA pick up something other than sm.
Have a great day,
Jared
Have a great day,
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03-01-2011, 02:52 PM
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This just in:
There are "issues" with my NASA TT license. How many days must I run DE4/TT to get a god damn TT license? I can only assume my one spin at MSR-H, where I never left the track, avoided contact by looking behind me while sideways, then leaving the track to avoid the train raised an eyebrow. Hopefully it's not the ****-much ride along instructor from ECR.
Sir Hustler Esq, Aryamehr
There are "issues" with my NASA TT license. How many days must I run DE4/TT to get a god damn TT license? I can only assume my one spin at MSR-H, where I never left the track, avoided contact by looking behind me while sideways, then leaving the track to avoid the train raised an eyebrow. Hopefully it's not the ****-much ride along instructor from ECR.
Sir Hustler Esq, Aryamehr
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03-01-2011, 03:58 PM
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This just in:
There are "issues" with my NASA TT license. How many days must I run DE4/TT to get a god damn TT license? I can only assume my one spin at MSR-H, where I never left the track, avoided contact by looking behind me while sideways, then leaving the track to avoid the train raised an eyebrow. Hopefully it's not the ****-much ride along instructor from ECR.
Sir Hustler Esq, Aryamehr
There are "issues" with my NASA TT license. How many days must I run DE4/TT to get a god damn TT license? I can only assume my one spin at MSR-H, where I never left the track, avoided contact by looking behind me while sideways, then leaving the track to avoid the train raised an eyebrow. Hopefully it's not the ****-much ride along instructor from ECR.
Sir Hustler Esq, Aryamehr
Have a geat day,
Jared
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